JWFREAK good to see you!
SIAM
as you are aware the french branch won a unanimous victory in the echr on june 30th 2011 regarding the tax struggle worth over 60 million euros.
there was then a wait of 3 months to see if the french goverment would appeal.. .
they did not appeal thus confirming the jw victory.. .
JWFREAK good to see you!
SIAM
have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
This is disgusting. I read it this way.
"Selma realized that she had the wrong attitude towards the way her husband treated her. She understood that Steve hit her because she was unwisely trying to make a point. Coming to grips with her error and adjusting her attitude brought peace to the family. Eventually, Steve got to the point where he would only hit her when she disrespected his God appointed headship. Instead feeling sorry for herself and focusing on her bruises and pains, Selma resolved to focus on Steve's good traits, such as providing well for the family, and taking care of home maintenance. Truly, these husbands can be "won without a word" if the wife applies bible principles."
i got the idea from what harvey milk did for the gay movement.
i am tired of hearing these stories about people staying jws while scared to admit they don't believe in it anymore.
if you saw the movie milk, then you know the argument.
Zen, You have a PM
SIAM
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/11/11/276021_todays-news.html.
Great story snoozy. I am glad you made it.
SIAM
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/2011/11/11/276021_todays-news.html.
You know its funny, the Service Meeting last night had the part on "why Jehovah's Witnesses don't take blood transfusions". The source material was the historic reasoning book with its epic flawed logic. As the speaker droned on and on I kept thinking..."What the Hell, Witnesses now can take almost 100% of blood as long as it is fractionated. Here they pride themselves on obeying God's law on blood, yet ignore the fact that they use gallons of blood in factions?"
One sister smartly comments that "when you have bled out,all you need is ringers solution to expand the volume". I thought to myself, "what a bunch of fucking retards. Will ringers solution carry oxygen to your brain? if so she needs some stat because she is brain dead"
People like this woman in the article who died, do so because they have been so confused about the new policy on fractions that they think it is best just to say no to blood. The Watchtower has made the situation even worse by their new convoluted policy that allows lifesaving blood in fractions, but has failed to adequately communicate the fact, so many people still continue to sacrifice their lives to the God of Gene Smalley.
"True christians out of respect for the almighty God, do not eat pizza in any shape or form. This is something that must be abstained from according to scripture. However, some Christians with a godly conscience, might allow themselves to eat minor components of pizza, such as tomato sauce, cheese, bread, onions, olives and pepperoni reasoning that these items by themself do not constitute pizza as a whole and thus would not be a violation of God's standard on abstaining from pizza". It is not our place to judge those brothers and sisters who conscientously hold to God's righteous standard.
SIAM
i've heard that another 2 people have left the "truth" as soon as they could get out.
both girls were elder's daughters.
they aren't elders now because they were somewhat problem teens.
Nice NRFG- you are on a roll. You have a potential to serve in the writing dept. Shades of sd-7
@ Scenic viewer, did you know that "gullible" isn't even a word that is in the dictionary?
SIAM
i got into one of those extended conversations with relatives i haven't spoken to in ages.
it was full of things unsaid and careful avoidance of saying too much about the organization.
lots of nice social hypocrisy, so nobody gets upset in the fairy-tale world of watchtower-ism.. is there any discreet, tactful, inoffensive way to tell them, "the organization is dying"?
Why this religion is dying
SIAM
on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.
for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.
what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.
Yeah Mrs. Jones. George is definitely pulling our leg. He took the red pill. Don't know about Mr. Man-kini, he seems like he is trying to convince hiself that his life wasn't a waste.
SIAM
on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.
for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.
what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.
I am walking out of the religion because it is not the truth. I was miserable as a witness because I was expected to believe and teach things that are not true. I don't know where my fade will end up but I do know that life is too short to pretend to believe a lie. I know that when I was on stage, being forced to sell something that I wouldn't buy, that I was hating myself for being a hypocrite.
Within the organization are a group of loving genuinely nice people. That exists in the world also. You can go through your life choosing to believe a lie, that is your choice and I support it if that makes you happy. It still doesn't change the fact that the foundation of your beliefs and confidence is built on a lie.
Again, life is too short to spend your life bowing down to a group of men pretending to speak for God.
SIAM
how many are there on this board that are also still in the society, especially acting in a position of leadership?
i think it's pretty funny they always talked about how "jehovah would root out the wickedness" yet theres people on here getting invites to "zone visits" that many other blind and faithful people weren't invited to.. .
if any of you are on your way out and have the ability to give a talk before you go, you should cratifly morph a talk into discussion about the origins of the society, by the time its obvious what you're doing you will have given 100-150 people seeds of doubt before they yank you off the stage, and the fact that they would be physically escorting you off the stage when you were simply talking about the "founder" of the society should be alarming and suspicious enough to those watching.. .
A lot. Many of us are in varying stages of a fade.
SIAM