I bet they start appointing non "annointed" to the GB. Their candidate pool of loyal, koolaid drinking, semi sane "annointed" brothers with a track record in the organization is shrinking quickly.
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The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil
by Dogpatch indear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
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Conti Trial Transcripts and Court Documents of Attorney Zalkin's cases of 5 victims WT settled out-of-court, San Diego, all available to download using MediaFire
by AndersonsInfo inthe conti trial transcripts have been uploaded using mediafire.. .
conti trial transcript: http://www.mediafire.com/?oj940x48xuuaa.
the public domain court documents for the 5 victims wt settled out-of-court case in may-june 2012, attorney irwin zalkin, san diego, calif., have been uploaded using mediafire:.
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stuckinamovement
Hi Barb,
Will the total settlement amount on this case ever be disclosed, like the settlement in 2007?
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WT recently settled out-of-court with 5 victims of JW serial molester. Court documents now available to post on any website
by AndersonsInfo inon may 20, 2010, a lawsuit was filed in san diego, california.
defendant, the watchtower of ny, settled out-of-court for an unknown amount of money with the plaintiffs just weeks before the candace conti trial began at the end of may 2012 in oakland, california.
the law firm representing the five plaintifs in this case was .
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stuckinamovement
Barb, will the amount of the settlement be made public at some point in the future?
Siam
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The special blue envelopes and the database.....
by stuckinamovement inevery judicial case has a form that is filled out after the decision to disfellowshipped is made.
the form includes the reasons for the action, a brief synopsis of the case.
it is then stuck in a special blue envelope and mailed to the branch.
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Every judicial case has a form that is filled out after the decision to disfellowshipped is made. The form includes the reasons for the action, a brief synopsis of the case. It is then stuck in a special blue envelope and mailed to the branch. I am sure that the information is entered into a database of some sort. Can you imagine the liability that the society will have if information on hundreds of thousands of individuals is placed onto the Internet? I think the whole disfellowshipping policy is terrible and unscriptural at best.
If I found out that a so called "clergy penitent" document about myself was out on the net potentially affecting my reputation I would have a lawyer filing a suit so quickly it's not even funny. The organizations arrogance is their undoing. They will say that any judicial proceedings are "confidential" yet they instruct the elders to file a report with details so the branch can track it. They want to have ultimate control over the lives of their subjects. This in itself will be the very thing that contributes to their demise.
Note: I am not talking about pedophiles. I am thinking of the man or woman who made a mistake 10 years in the past and now has this mistake posted online potentially affecting their ability to be hired or married or whatever. The simple fact is that the society keeps a lot of dirt on a lot of people. Release of this is going to be the biggest snafu in the history of the organization.
I hope it destroys them.
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We KNOW who they are
by DonJuel infolks!
we need to unite on this one.
all of us know names of elders and others inside the tower who are child molesters in different parts of the world..... now that we have some allied out there in cyberspace i would like us to make the most of it.... everyone who knows names and addresses to pedophiles inside the tower...now is the time to act!
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Shawn10538- lol that's funny stuff. We make the point that caution should be exercised in this endeavor not to ruin an innocent persons life by painting him or her as a pedophile, and now because of this stance we "don't have the character to stand up for what's right?" It seems to me that it takes a person of character to actually act in a controlled and measured way. I support wholeheartedly the effort to expose true pedophiles in this organization, and have actually taken a number of actions myself to do so, but the way that it seems that you are approaching it seems dangerous.
I am sorry you see my position as a lack of character. I can't speak for EE' as I don't know what his situation is currently, but for myself I can tell you that your assumption is incorrect.
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We KNOW who they are
by DonJuel infolks!
we need to unite on this one.
all of us know names of elders and others inside the tower who are child molesters in different parts of the world..... now that we have some allied out there in cyberspace i would like us to make the most of it.... everyone who knows names and addresses to pedophiles inside the tower...now is the time to act!
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I agree with EE and cantleave. While I hope that any true pedophile rots in hell, it is stupid and reckless to post names of people on the Internet. If Anon is able to get the so called list that is one thing. Trolling for names of current congregation members is a disaster in the making. Let the law judge those who are pedophiles. Don't take it upon yourself to create a list of names with people that might or might not be pedophiles. It is a terrible idea and will end up backfiring tremendously. The plan as far as I can tell is an Internet version of the Salem witch hunts. Provide evidence before prosecuting the individual in this way.
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How Do You Think The Watchtower IT Department Is Responding To The Anonymous Threat?
by DT inso anonymous has declared its intentions to utterly destroy the watchtower society.
this will likely include attacking the official websites and trying to obtain the database of 23,000+ pedophiles in the organization.. i have never served at bethel so i would appreciate the input of those who have.
do you think they are taking this threat seriously?.
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They do have a list and a database of some sort. I think I had mentioned it on another thread, but once when I was speaking to legal (in Brooklyn) about a matter they were taking notes like crazy ad I could hear it over the phone, They then transferred me to the Service dept in Patterson and the brother there at the service desk had the exact same information. The Branch asks very specific questions for specific reasons. They have records on every dfing, appointment, deletion, and molestation accusation. If they ever destroyed the "list" they would have to also destroy all of the correspondence from specific BOE's and the subsequent return correspondence to BOE's (in KH file cabinets) also.
Their lust for control and power will end up being the very thing that ends them. They think that they answer to no one even when it comes to matter like this.
I am pretty sure of a couple of things.
1. Their systems are networked together.
2. The database is electronic. Pieces of correspondence proving that Brooklyn and Patterson are aware of accused and confirmed pedophiles are out there floating around in KH files, Elder bags, etc.
The best thing that could happen is for one of the Bethel network administrators to "leak" the list. The Watchtower is in a no win situation.
Attention Bethel Lurkers or Monitors. You can go down with the flaming, sinking ship that is known as the Watchtower Society, or you can do the right thing, be a hero and release the data thus protecting thousands of kids from being molested.
Seems to me like the choice is simple. You can protect a corrupt malicious corporation that masquerades as "God's Organization", and end up penniless and reviled, in jail for your role in the pedophile cover up, or you can do what's right and blow the whistle and be hailed as a protector of children. Your move.
It appears that Anonymous is watching you.
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Anonymous Message to Watchtower
by jwleaks inhttp://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.
hello citizens of the world.
we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.
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stuckinamovement
Anonymous is one organization that can pull this off. The Watchtower society is as bad as scientology in many respects and worse in others. This attack is a long time coming, and the result will be an international exposé of the society. The watchtower cannot win this battle because they are their own worst enemy.
Siam
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Anonymous Message to Watchtower
by jwleaks inhttp://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.
hello citizens of the world.
we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.
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stuckinamovement
I am sure that the files are electronic. I remember talking to an attorney in legal and a brother in the service depts about a case and they both had the same information quickly. If memory serves me right I could hear typing as I talked. The records are undoubtably electronic. In this day and age with the amount of pedophiles in the org it would be too onerous to keep them on paper and continually make amendments as the sicko moves around.
My 2 cents
Siam
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No more 3-day DCs starting in 2013?
by respectful_observer inapologies if there is another recent thread on this, but i have heard from 4 different people in 3 different geographic areas (including someone who does advance work for the dcs), that beginning in 2013 the three day dc program will be replaced by a second two-day circuit assembly.
some people were passing the info along like a secret, others seemed to think that everyone already knew.. if everyone in j-dub land is already talking about this, how is it not all over this forum??.
anyway, can anyone confirm or deny?.
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stuckinamovement
Skeeter,
I can guarantee you that moving the convention to an assembly hall won't make their ADA liability go away. Many assembly halls are not in compliance as it is now.