I know for a fact that there is a concerted effort by elders in congs around the menlo area to discredit and demonize the Cobbs. I have no doubt that the source of the slander is headquarters.
Siam
no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.
called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.
every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.
I know for a fact that there is a concerted effort by elders in congs around the menlo area to discredit and demonize the Cobbs. I have no doubt that the source of the slander is headquarters.
Siam
there are a great many people - and internet sites- that preach a sort of 2012/ufo gospel.
while they may contradict one another, they mostly teach that ufo's will intervene and save us, especially if governments admit that they exist.. yeah, ok..... been there, heard that..... but could there be a core of truth to this idea?.
what would happen if the world acknowledged that et's exist?.
Metatron, you are one of my favorite posters on this board. You bring a logical approach to many things. Even though I do think there is some form of other life out there, I am not sure they care about man. That said, the simple disclosure that there are other beings out there will shatter mankinds preconceived notions. There have been many epic discoveries in the last several hundred years, each time the discovery comes when Mankind gets comfortable with the presumption that they have it all figured out.
I am by no means a conspiracy theorist but when I have read about things like the Nazca lines, stonehenge and the Tunguska event it makes me wonder if there is still a lot out there that we simply don't know. Here's to a golden age!
Siam
dear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
Can we get additional confirmation from other sources that this meeting will focus on "doctrinal" issues? I am sure that a leak specifying the information will get out before the Elder School.
SIAM
dear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
I don't think it will be primarily geared to the pedophile problem. Why would changing the policy be hard for some to accept? I think that it will be these issues in the following order of likelyhood.
1. Major change in preaching methods, with the door to door ministry being limited.
2. 144k is now a symbolic number and not literal.
3. The FDS is clearly the Governing Body. A GB member does not need to be annointed
4. Blood transfusions will be a conscience matter.
5. The C/O arrangement will be scrapped.
6. No more 3 day Conventions.
7. Inactive ones will be now be considered as disassociated.
8. An effort will be made to purge the congregations of apostates through increased witchhunts
dear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
00Dad the quote is from the 5/15/12 issue in the "times and seasons" article.
Siam
dear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
They are going to dump door to door or make some significant change in the way the preaching is done. Several weeks back the Watchtower made this comment.
15 Continuing in the Kingdom preaching
work in these last days requires
faith in Jehovah’s timing. The
changing world situation may call
for some changes in how the disciplemaking
work is carried on. The organization
may occasionally make adjustments
to address the needs of our
activity as Kingdom proclaimers. We
demonstrate faith in the God of “times
and seasons” by fully cooperating with
such adjustments as we serve loyally under
his Son, the “head of the congregation.”
They don't have the money to keep printing crap that no one reads. Few are coming in to the org due to the d2d activity. There is also a ton of liability to the work. I will also speculate that they will eliminate the reporting of time.
SIAM
dear randall.
good morning!.
here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!
I bet they start appointing non "annointed" to the GB. Their candidate pool of loyal, koolaid drinking, semi sane "annointed" brothers with a track record in the organization is shrinking quickly.
the conti trial transcripts have been uploaded using mediafire.. .
conti trial transcript: http://www.mediafire.com/?oj940x48xuuaa.
the public domain court documents for the 5 victims wt settled out-of-court case in may-june 2012, attorney irwin zalkin, san diego, calif., have been uploaded using mediafire:.
Hi Barb,
Will the total settlement amount on this case ever be disclosed, like the settlement in 2007?
SIAM
on may 20, 2010, a lawsuit was filed in san diego, california.
defendant, the watchtower of ny, settled out-of-court for an unknown amount of money with the plaintiffs just weeks before the candace conti trial began at the end of may 2012 in oakland, california.
the law firm representing the five plaintifs in this case was .
Barb, will the amount of the settlement be made public at some point in the future?
Siam
every judicial case has a form that is filled out after the decision to disfellowshipped is made.
the form includes the reasons for the action, a brief synopsis of the case.
it is then stuck in a special blue envelope and mailed to the branch.
Every judicial case has a form that is filled out after the decision to disfellowshipped is made. The form includes the reasons for the action, a brief synopsis of the case. It is then stuck in a special blue envelope and mailed to the branch. I am sure that the information is entered into a database of some sort. Can you imagine the liability that the society will have if information on hundreds of thousands of individuals is placed onto the Internet? I think the whole disfellowshipping policy is terrible and unscriptural at best.
If I found out that a so called "clergy penitent" document about myself was out on the net potentially affecting my reputation I would have a lawyer filing a suit so quickly it's not even funny. The organizations arrogance is their undoing. They will say that any judicial proceedings are "confidential" yet they instruct the elders to file a report with details so the branch can track it. They want to have ultimate control over the lives of their subjects. This in itself will be the very thing that contributes to their demise.
Note: I am not talking about pedophiles. I am thinking of the man or woman who made a mistake 10 years in the past and now has this mistake posted online potentially affecting their ability to be hired or married or whatever. The simple fact is that the society keeps a lot of dirt on a lot of people. Release of this is going to be the biggest snafu in the history of the organization.
I hope it destroys them.
Siam