2011 is a special landmark year in my life, because it is the year when i finally said "enough is enough" and awakened from my increasingly passive role within the jw faith.
coincidentally, this was also the year in which the governing body "ramped up" its rhetoric to ever more dizzying heights of arrogance, hatred, and absurdity.
whether 2011 subsequently goes down in the history of the watch tower society as being a true turning point in its downfall remains to be seen.
Cedars you are the man!
Thansk for all of your work on these topics bringing attention to the bizarre and conflicting teachings of the Society. Here is wishing to 2012 being the year that the Society gets their ass handed to them in courts, in the media, and in the minds of the flock.
SIAM
the 13th was my wife and i's 8th year wedding anniversary.
we dated for 2 years before marrying because we wanted to "be past the bloom of youth" .
-sab.
Happy anniversary Sab. Looks cold. I think I have been to that taco bell and had a similar experience.
SIAM
http://www.jwnews.net/.
crisis of conscience within the traralgon congregation of jehovahs witnesses?
part 2december 18, 2011 by sitepost .
These poor children. I hope that the media picks up on this story. Witnesses love to say how they are nothing like the Catholics. Wrong! there is no difference between the religions when it comes to this problem.
SIAM
how long does it take for the elder's to respond to a letter of reinstatement?
is there a time range?.
It depends on how busy/ lazy they are. I have seen it take 3 months from the time the letter was received to the time they met with the person requesting reinstatement. Siam
have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
Funny that this was bumped today.
I asked my wife last night what she would do if I ever hit her? (I won't ever do this and hate people who are abusers).
She replied that she would walk out the door never to return. I agreed that was probably the appropriate response. I am going to let a couple of days go by and then mention this study article and see what her reaction is. If I am correct she will be disgusted. It is incredible that the organization puts the blame for the violence on the victim and uses pressure to compel the victim to stay in an abusive relationship.
Watchtower- you are cutting your own throat.
SIAM
from the march 15, 2012 wt, pg 17 para 10. today there are better ways to reach not millions, but billions including those in china, india, and arabic countries where they don't even know the name jehovah.
i guess stockpiling billions in cash and property are more important than spreading the "urgent message" hypocrites!.
"the example of a small group of.
I agree. If there was actual urgency the GB would be acting ala Harold Camping. If you are a lurker please take note of how the Organization will pay lip service to the urgency of the message, but their methods of spreading the life saving message are less than urgent.
SIAM
soooo many witnesses that i knew of had great potential to be somebody, to do something in their lives and instead, they simply existed in a way of life that never really ever gave them back anything in return.
so sad, when you think of the waste!.
Yes
the strange saga of lorterdan properties at ramapo v. watchtower of new york.
information compiled by barbara anderson.
on february 27, 2009, the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. (watchtower) purchased 248 acres of land located in ramapo, new york, from a company named lorterdan properties at ramapo i, llc (lorterdan).
Sounds like a messy case. I hope the WTS gets a black eye on this.
SIAM
wants us to enjoy life?
4. why do we need to set limits on the kind of recreation.
well to determine in advance whether some.
I was watching football last night, when an Elder dropped by. He pointed to the football game and mentioned the Watchtower studied yesterday, and encouraged me to re-evaulate my choices. This is from the same guy I was in a Fantasy league with. I came unglued.
I told him that the two examples mentioned in the article for acceptable recreation was "reading a book and bicycling to sightsee" and were the lamest forms of recreation I could imagine. I then asked if hockey, basketball, soccer, baseball, nascar, and the olympics was now off limits for "true Christians?" All are violent, with risks and have extreme competition. Is every sort of competitive team sport now off limits?
My standard answer now when people ask what I do for fun.... "Read my bible"
He got the point quickly that I thought the Watchtower study was a bunch of crap.
SIAM (my mouth is going to be the end of me)
i told a current longtime jw friend who hasn't been to a meeting in months now :) this statement:.
"if jw's were so honest and this was the true religion that they really and i mean really believed was the truth, how come they never tell any of their return visits or children before babtizim that if they ever choose to think differently and believe differently and decides they no longer want to be one of jehovahs witness, they will be shunned by all former friends and last but not least family??!!
do you really think if they were told this "disclosure" at the time of studying they would continue?
Good question Randy, I have used a variant of that...
" if your mate was cheating on you, would you want to know the truth?" Generally the answer is yes. then I ask.... "If the organization was not what it claimed to be, would you want to know?"
It is interesting to see the look on the persons face when you ask them this.
SIAM
