Posts by stuckinamovement

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Any idea when "New Light" offically in print or explained 2 RnF???

by mind blown in

hello, would anyone know or a guesstimate??.

also, will they have assemblies to discuss .

~mb.

stuckinamovement

I said screw it and shared the new light with a loved one last night. The format I used was cedars blog and my iPad. This persons reaction was " now they are just pulling stuff out of their butt".

one question that I asked was, if the fds didn't exist until 1919 (which is based on 1914's supposed events), then how was the extremely important date of 1914 arrived at without the slaves involvement? That struck a chord, mand the response was "that's a great point! None of it makes sense."

Cedars, please keep up the good work! You are helping in ways that you don't even know.

Siam

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Watch Tower Property Sell Off Wiki List:

by frankiespeakin in

stuckinamovement

$405 million in sales since 2004. And much of the sales in a down market.

Wow, its not a religion it's a developer.

Selling assets like this in a slump is usually indication of a cash crunch. Costs are up, donations are down, Legal costs have gone through the roof, this organization is much like a rich guy with cancer. Plenty of money now, but bills mounting and limited prospects for the future.

SIAM

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Any idea when "New Light" offically in print or explained 2 RnF???

by mind blown in

hello, would anyone know or a guesstimate??.

also, will they have assemblies to discuss .

~mb.

stuckinamovement

I have had to restrain myself from talking about this nooolite until it is published. I am however dropping hints to my family like.....

"it seems as if the Governing Body is directing an awful lot of attention to themselves over the past several years"

"The only thing that makes sense about the FDS doctrine is that the apostles were part of the FDS in the 1st century, their works clearly showed that God was behind them" ; "Now with the pedophile scandal its hard to imagine that God is directing the organization"

"it seems as if the GB are just making things up as they go along, the more things change the more they stay the same"

SIAM

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The Governing Body - their own worst enemy!

by cedars in

i've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.

the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.

i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.

stuckinamovement

Let's talk about the "elephant in the room".

I have noticed that apologists will almost always resort to similar ad hominem attacks, instead of tackling the issue.

Cedars you wrote a masterful article that is spot on. The GB is the perfect combination of a group of leaders that are not only arrogant but ignorant as well. This combination tends to be incredibly dangerous. The examples you mention are perfect examples of how they are self destructing. In the last year look at how many people have joined this site, or even how many people are missing from the meetings and service. No matter how the Branch cooks the books they are in decline. Anecdotal evidence shows that they are bleeding out in numbers of adherents as well as financially.

Elephant, the things that these men are doing are indefensible spiritually, legally, and morally. If they were representing God like they claim they wouldn't be directing attention to themselves and protecting pedophiles. They are false prophets who are responsible for destroying peoples lives. Their policies steal childhoods, break up families, kill people, and socially handicap their followers. All in the name of God. Try to defend that, and you act like a defense attorney for a war criminal.

SIAM

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We Need A Group Of Anointed To Challenge The Governing Body

by DT in

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i believe that a coup is one of the governing body's worst nightmares.. imagine a splinter group led by anointed ones that draw off enough of a following to cause confusion about who is directing the organization.. this may be one of the reasons the governing body removed the special status of the anointed and placed it on an organizational arrangement that they just happen to occupy.. the irony is that this action is a coup in itself.

by declaring themselves leaders in complete control of the organization, they have created a rival group composed of those who disagree.

these people have no obligation to follow these newly self appointed leaders.

stuckinamovement

DT you have a PM

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F&DS has just become GB - when is this new light disseminated to R&F?

by NeverKnew in

i think i get that this meeting on october 6 was by invitation only.

if i asked a jw to research who the f&ds was, i'm assuming that they'd tell me it is the annointed and maybe even provide me with wt literature from that cd explaining this.

...or would they already know about the change?

stuckinamovement

Good point donut hole. They are in essence saying that the bible writers in the 1st century were not part of the fds.

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2012 Annual Meeting: MORE notes...

by Ultimate Reality in

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from a reliable source...provides further confirmation on the gb's new status.

these are from the symposium part on the new light.. .

jeoff jackson - how is spiritual food prepared?.

stuckinamovement

Holy crap ...... Belongings - All hisbelongings both heavenly and earthly

this means that the angels in heaven are subject to the Governing Body?

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Questions on new understanding (FDS - GB)

by Weana in

some questions arise with the new understanding:.

was there a slave class between the 1st century and the 20th century?.

in w march 1, 2004, it was stated, that the slave could not be a single man, because "acording to jesus words" the slave had started his work in 1st century and would still be in action in 20th century.. was the slave in action in 1914?

stuckinamovement

So if I understand this right the fds wasn't in existence until 1919? So they mean to tell us that the entire Greek scriptures written by the apostles and others really didn't come from the "fds" as a group because the group didn't exist yet?

Lies upon lie upon lies.

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2012 Annual Meeting

by obarac in

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2012 annual meeting - october 6th 2012.

stuckinamovement

The trotteted out the ridiculous overlapping generation bullshit at the annual meeting 3 years ago. It tends to be a symbolic corporate meeting filled with more crap than an actual corporate meeting.

siam

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I was HAPPY as a JW! How did I end up here? Pt 3

by MC RubberMallet in

continued from... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/239394/2/i-was-happy-as-a-jw-how-did-i-end-up-here-pt-2.

i mentioned how i was happy as a jw.

but that night, that very night after the conversation happened, there was a real feeling of relief.

stuckinamovement

Mc rubbermallet this is a page turner. It's really the best thread I have read in a while. After you are done please compile it into one thread as a combination.

Siam