man this would be so funny to do to the elders, .
bring a cell phone and order a pizza when the elders starts talking.
stare off into space and blow spit bubbles.. .
Why bother?
I respect alot of elders I grew up with... didn't like others. Why conduct yourself in a demeaning manner and look like an idiot? Show some class and maturity. Don't go to the JC if you think it's a farce... don't add to the farce by acting the fool.
Paragraph 15 kills me...
Therein it says that had those Israelites done some reasoning, they would have looked at the track record of Moses and Aaron and recognized their authority. They were front in center in the escapades in Egypt etc and had done much to demonstrate some divine authority. Let's accept this line of reasoning...
With that thought in mind, what of the the rest of the article? Should the logical followup in the article not be to show that the WTS is God's earthly organization and that a logical examination of it's "track record" should identify it?!? Should there not be identification of momentous events and prophecy fulfillment that are pointed to that equate with the things Moses and Aaron do?
No, instead the reasoning is that "elders are imperfect, but they are pretty good guys and they preach the good news".
Huh? I never liked the poor writing that was done in alot of these articles. They often start out on one line of reasoning, and then they tack on some notion at the end that they want to drive home, without having any real connection to it earlier in the article.
I read the article...
First, it is asserted that the 'royal priesthood' are the anointed. Fine... But how in the next paragraph can they make the leap to say that the elders are "representatives" for the the royal priesthood?!? How can a select, God-chosen group with a higher calling be represented by a group of men of whom the vast majority are not of the "anointed" nor are they appointed by God?
Pure nonsense - I am ashamed that I used to swallow this stuff.
Actually that picture is clearly of Leslie Neilson (Naked Gun fame). Remember when he was hiding out in the middle east at the start of the movie infiltrating the meeting of all those terrorists?
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listen to this song.......... a friend of mine told me it was by who......... on their tommy album... i don't know what it's called........... but the guy say's.........." love,... rain on me"................ .
say those words over and over,.............and see what happens
Sigh...
First off, it's from the album "Quadrophenia" and secondly the song and lyric is "Love, Reign O'er Me".
Nice try.
anybody here have a chance to read jay walker's story on freeminds.org?
i just got through reading pages and pages of it.
i was keenly interested early on in the story and the astoundign things that happened in it.
Hi Amazing,
I thoroughly enjoyed the story and was completely caught up in it. I don't have any specific complaints about the story - my post was more like a "pinch me somebody and tell me this really happened!".
I appreciated your candour and the fact that you felt in retrospect that you got a little arrogant at points - you made no attempt to hide what you considered to be your mistakes. I have known brothers like some you described in your story - the good and the bad. The Memorial experience was the best part of the story. I like how you were both at once respectful, but also insightful about the heavenly hope.
A topic that I would like to know more about is the prevalence of "silent reformers". Having been out 6 years I don't have a handle on just how many R&F are tired and weary, how many elders are quietly hoping for reform and how many people are actually leaving. Any insights would be appreciated.
anybody here have a chance to read jay walker's story on freeminds.org?
i just got through reading pages and pages of it.
i was keenly interested early on in the story and the astoundign things that happened in it.
Anybody here have a chance to read Jay Walker's story on freeminds.org? I just got through reading pages and pages of it. I was keenly interested early on in the story and the astoundign things that happened in it. As I got to the end I started to believe that alot of it was embellished.
Can anyone verify some of the story at least? It made for a great read, but I was rather skeptical by the end of it.
the bible reports that the babylonians under nebuchadnezzar destroyed .
chronology, the desolation of jerusalem would have been in the year 587/6 .
babylon (in his accession year, 605 b.c.e.
pers,
You mention that:
But the correct thing to do is to discuss it directly
with governing body (as I did) and if the information is correct
they will confirm it (as per my cases).
I would love to know how you were able to personally contact the GB? May I ask what you brought to their attention? Can you scan letters of correspondance?
If you have managed to get this kind of direct line to the GB, I am sure we'd all appreciate if you would mind running a few more questions by them for us.
Thanks so much in advance!
from: robert
sent: 6/17/2002 7:17 pm
saddledome convention disrupted by bomb scare .
A bomb scare is serious, but I am sure more than a few welcomed getting out of the convention early.
what song do you put on when you're sad?
is there a certain song that never fails to tear you up and why?.
what do you listen to when you're in a good mood?
Well, strangely enough, I like to be dragged down a little further when feeling down. I like listening to sad songs when I'm sad...
Old 97s - Salome
Wilco - Sunken Treasure
Modest Mouse - 3rd Planet
