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  TRIVIA:The 3 Secret Sins - What are/were they ?

  by Dismembered in

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  anyone remember what the 3 "secret sins" were, that the gb counselled us on in the late 80's & early 90's.

  we were admonished to turn ourselves in if we were guilty so "da elders" could help us deal with them.

  anyone remember?

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  joenobody

  This reminds me of the time I was studying with a guy who was a little too eager. He admitted to me he was having a masturbation problem. He had been living with this girl, they moved out from each other when they got into studying, and he was having a tough time not getting any on a regular basis.

  I advised him not to sweat it. I didn't need to know about it and he could keep it to himself. I always felt that any of the brothers that I talked to (single) that claimed not to do it, were probably the biggest wankers of all. I can't imagine why the GB had such an obsession with masturbation and wracked so many people with guilt about it. I remember all of those ridiculous stories that it would lead to homosexuality etc... what a pile of crap.

  I look back and realize as I am older now (early 30s) that your libido eventually balances itself out. In youth, your hormones truly rage. Masturbation was definitely a way for the body to test itself out.
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  Top STUPID criticisms of the WTS

  by JanH in

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  there are certainly enough valid criticisms of the wts and the jw religion, but a significant number of often-repeated criticisms of the religion are, imnsho, just ludicruous and serves to take attention away from the real issues.

  significant problems with the wts includes, but are not limited to, the shunning policy, the blood issue and of course the corporate policy of hiding child molestors.. here is a list of criticisms of the wts that i find particularly annoying to see:.

  russell was a freemason (or, even worse, the wts is part of some other large-scale conspiracy like the illuminati).

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  joenobody

  Great thread JanH - definitely got all of the board members out of the woodwork and thinking.

  Lisa: I can really appreciate what you mean about the followers making a personal choice when they decide to shun. I have made it known to my family that when they choose to invite or not invite me to a wedding, to speak or not to speak, etc that they are making a personal choice. I refuse to let them fall back on the "you know what the organization says" line. It definitely causes a twinge in them when I let them know I won't accept a cop-out reason and that I deem decisions to be made as personal choices.

  I am comfortable with the word cult. When I have spoked with current members in private and their worries about leaving are not centered on displeasing God, but rather on the fears of wasting years of their life, their routine and their social circle, to me that demonstrates an extreme devotion to an organization that dictates all facets of life and determines to keep it's members by hook or crook.
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  Bomb Threat at District Convention in Calgary

  by dobby in

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  after, we were again allowed into the building no.

  one without a lapel card was allowed in without being thoroughly.

  after about 20 minutes all.

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  joenobody

  What a crock... they had to extend the assembly by 2 hours.
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  Bomb Threat at District Convention in Calgary

  by dobby in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after, we were again allowed into the building no.

  one without a lapel card was allowed in without being thoroughly.

  after about 20 minutes all.

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  joenobody

  Gag!!

  Fastest and most orderly bomb evacuation ever! Is there no event to which they do not heap platitudes upon themselves?
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  65 QUESTIONS---FIRST 10 ANSWERS

  by You Know in

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  2. bible

  with that in mind, then, we can better appreciate what jesus was referring to when he spoke about the temple of his body.

  thats because they are persons, whereas the holy spirit is a force that is merely frequently referred to as if it were a person.

  5. the wts claims that ezekial's prophecy of the jews returning to their land is fulfilled in their organization.

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  joenobody

  You know,

  Why not hop in the Chat Room... you are around right now, aren't you?
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  MORE ANSWERS TO 65 QUESTIONS: 11-21

  by You Know in

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  2. bible

  11. since the wts claims "apostolic succession", can it trace its roots all the way back to christ (mt 16:18)?

  if so, who was it that "passed the torch of god's spirit" to c. t. russell when he founded the organization?

  what was the name of this individual or individuals?.

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  joenobody

  YouKnow,

  Since when is the "generation" teaching insignicant? It was used to motivate people to alter their lives and decisions regarding employment, education etc by stressing that time was getting short as these people approached their 70s and 80s.

  Why was this "new light" on "this generation" revealed AFTER there was no possible way it could be fulfilled. You must admit the chain of articles stretching and extending the length of a generation and what a person who lived in 1914 would've had to have seen has been a focal point of the Witnesses for ages.

  I expect you to conveniently sidestep this as you do all other issues you do not want to tackle.

  Edited by - joenobody on 24 June 2002 12:58:19
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  ?s for business and finance majors/workers

  by Leander in

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  i'm looking for information on how to get a loan from non conventional lending institutions.. .

  here's my scenario, i want to get started in real estate development.

  my goal is to purchase just enough land to build one single family home and once the house has been completed i'd like to sell it for market value.

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  joenobody

  Fat Tony of the Simpsons...

  Or Tony Soprano perhaps.
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  I would love to do this at a judicial hearing

  by WildTurkey in

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  man this would be so funny to do to the elders, .

  bring a cell phone and order a pizza when the elders starts talking.

  stare off into space and blow spit bubbles.. .

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  joenobody

  Why bother?

  I respect alot of elders I grew up with... didn't like others. Why conduct yourself in a demeaning manner and look like an idiot? Show some class and maturity. Don't go to the JC if you think it's a farce... don't add to the farce by acting the fool.
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  WatchTower Study 4 Sept, 2002

  by plmkrzy in

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  edited by - plmkrzy on 22 june 2002 13:1:53.

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  Paragraph 15 kills me...

  Therein it says that had those Israelites done some reasoning, they would have looked at the track record of Moses and Aaron and recognized their authority. They were front in center in the escapades in Egypt etc and had done much to demonstrate some divine authority. Let's accept this line of reasoning...

  With that thought in mind, what of the the rest of the article? Should the logical followup in the article not be to show that the WTS is God's earthly organization and that a logical examination of it's "track record" should identify it?!? Should there not be identification of momentous events and prophecy fulfillment that are pointed to that equate with the things Moses and Aaron do?

  No, instead the reasoning is that "elders are imperfect, but they are pretty good guys and they preach the good news".

  Huh? I never liked the poor writing that was done in alot of these articles. They often start out on one line of reasoning, and then they tack on some notion at the end that they want to drive home, without having any real connection to it earlier in the article.
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  WatchTower Study 4 Sept, 2002

  by plmkrzy in

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  joenobody

  I read the article...

  First, it is asserted that the 'royal priesthood' are the anointed. Fine... But how in the next paragraph can they make the leap to say that the elders are "representatives" for the the royal priesthood?!? How can a select, God-chosen group with a higher calling be represented by a group of men of whom the vast majority are not of the "anointed" nor are they appointed by God?

  Pure nonsense - I am ashamed that I used to swallow this stuff.