by hank schaller, of the oakland press june 09, 2002 .
when it comes to being a house of worship, the pontiac silverdome has a long history.
it has served as a site of a papal mass by pope john paul ii, a crusade by evangelist billy .
For an org that ostensibly disdains the world, they sure try hard to impress it. Look how good and moral we are. We even clean better than anyone else. As I recall, the Pharisees were also into alot of cleaning, but it didn't seem to do them too much good in Jesus book.
Edited by - joeshmoe on 16 June 2002 14:35:29
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today i was out in service, met sveral nice peopel who like to here about god news from the bibel,i was reding from luk 21, and showing them what will happend, and that jehova can solve our problems.i think here in matrealistik sweden we have a bigg los of spirutal sings, evrything here is about money, and young peopel dont like this so much, they want a new order, some have gone to this proclaim the streets movment, it is a anarkistic movment.. so i must say the messege from bibel is radher the same, a bigg dissaster, and then a new order.. but i dont think as the gov body that only jw are saved,i am more i touch widh rutherfords talk,million who now live will never die.. never forget that the bibel say, we are not judges,it is jesus who have this power,think gb has forgett this thing.. greatings from the north.
Can you imagine if Jesus were here?
If you thought he ripped into the Pharisees, imagine these hypocritical JW's?? The GB -- aka white washed graves -- would have heart attacks on the spot!
tera,
that's not the party line. Did your mother know she was using apostate reasoning?
Grits,
Whoa! I just think a couple folks didn't quite get where happy man was coming from. I don't think happy was bothered. He's Swede after all. They're tough!
Edited by - joeshmoe on 16 June 2002 13:26:0
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today i was out in service, met sveral nice peopel who like to here about god news from the bibel,i was reding from luk 21, and showing them what will happend, and that jehova can solve our problems.i think here in matrealistik sweden we have a bigg los of spirutal sings, evrything here is about money, and young peopel dont like this so much, they want a new order, some have gone to this proclaim the streets movment, it is a anarkistic movment.. so i must say the messege from bibel is radher the same, a bigg dissaster, and then a new order.. but i dont think as the gov body that only jw are saved,i am more i touch widh rutherfords talk,million who now live will never die.. never forget that the bibel say, we are not judges,it is jesus who have this power,think gb has forgett this thing.. greatings from the north.
OK, off subject, but why is it the society still loves to tout the Rutherford "millions now living" talks when it's clear, by the very theme, that he was wrong?
Maybe more important, how is it that I heard it for years and never questioned it until I finally one day allowed myself to start critically looking at this org that claims to speak for God?
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..if the usa win their next 3 world cup games, and england win their next 2 games, then the usa and england will meet in the final to decide who will win the world cup?.
if that happens, unlikely as it is that the usa will defeat mexico tomorrow.
A dual-world power, what else?
i'm sorry that due to "technical difficulties', last weekend's poll did not appear, but thanks to all those who enquired about why it was not posted.
glad you're enjoying them!
so, time to put your feet up, so to speak, and have some fun with this weekend's poll.
Max said:
Wonder who's weak enought to fall off coz of this?'
Oh man (hands over face), I just realized that's exactly how I felt. I was such a self righteous prick!
I was at Bethel when that change was announced. There was ALOT of talk in the family. I was a new boy at the time and I just kept my head down for the most part, but I do recall the "Bethel Elder (a step above your average Elder -- Bethel appointed)" that drove us out to our hall in Queens telling us to send anyone with questions to him. But I didn't talk significantly to anyone at the KH who had questions -- I think, as some have already said, most witnesses just didn't take notice. The slave had spoken.
Edited by - joeshmoe on 16 June 2002 11:4:29
to golflovers.
i just had to write it.
today i holed in one on my local.
no, this isn't another childish photoshop prank.. in the past day(s), probably many of you have noticed the facility that i had to lash out unnecessarily at other people.
i've insulted people who came to support me, i've embarassed myself, gone into arguments that i couldn't win, made a pretty flagrant face-about, and generally, made an ass of myself.
and for that i'm sorry.. to tell the truth, the last day (s) has/ve been a nightmare of sorts.
I don't know you Mind, but from what I've seen over the last few days...
You Rock!
does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?
simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?
because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.
Dutchie, I just wanted to say before I split... What a great thread this is!
I know you've been a little 'worn out by it', but I'm glad you felt strongly enough to post it! I think it's wonderful that you're that moved by your concern for others (and your own conscience).
And I'm glad others (Naeb especially) have been moved to defend their personal freedom.
THIS IS WHY I LEFT THE BORG!! Who wants to live in a world where we all agree? And yet, that's just what I thought I wanted!
Oh well, time to go nighty-night.
Thanks again Dutchie. You're a good hearted, gutsy chick!
does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?
simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?
because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.
We all judge each other don't we? When you first learn of someone, you make a judgement call on them, then as you get to know them you alter that judgement as you see fit.
The question is, if you've judged someone wanting, can you force them to change? Well, no, you can't force them, but if your intention was to raise the issue that you sometimes are a little "ashamed" by the board and hoped that perhaps that would make some of us stop and think, mission accomplished. Will anyone change? Thats for time to tell.
does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?
simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?
because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.
Lilacs,
I do not sleep with every Tom Dick and Harry
Hi, I'm a Joe.
Luv ya Lilacs, I'm putting crazy emoticons all over the place.
You've created a monster!
