the company i work for rents out several floors in an office building.
this jw works for the actual office building, specifically in a little mini concession stand, with things like overpriced chips, soda, etc.. so i'm walking through the revolving doors this morning, and i see her.
elevators can be a mofo in the morning some days.
She's done this before, and I think I'm going to have to approach her about this.
Hm, wonder if that's likely to backfire? If she took it personally, any chance she might inform the elders that you're embarassed to be known in public as JW or somesuch nonsense? I hope not, but might want to consider it--then again maybe I'm just paranoid....?
i recently finished reading crisis of conscience.
in short, it was one of the most important books i've ever read, even considering that i left the kh 13 years ago.
i honestly cannot see how anyone could read it and still maintain that they believe in the wts religion--have any of you ever known someone to read it and actually still believe and be happy with the jw religion?
I recently finished reading Crisis of Conscience. In short, it was one of the most important books I've ever read, even considering that I left the KH 13 years ago. I honestly cannot see how anyone could read it and still maintain that they believe in the WTS religion--have any of you ever known someone to read it and actually still believe and be happy with the JW religion? Obviously it's considered apostate literature, but I'm sure that doesn't stop all those who consider themselves JWs from reading it, especially if ever convinced to do so by doubting or concerned friends, family, or spouses.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
ok jesika and i started this in chat so here it goes,.
you know your an apostate when..........worldy is a word used for your friends.
you now your an apostate when ............your parents call after five years....and say anything new!.
...when, not long after leaving the borg, you find yourself accidentally starting a prayer "Jehovah, ..." then realize what you're doing and quickly end it "...FUCK YOU!" and get a good giggle out of it.
Maybe that's just atheist apostates.
Or just me.
the definition of "pot meets kettle".
this is just to funny.
how is anyone supposed to take religion seriously, really.. .
"people do not change 'orientation', they change behavior, maybe."
That's the crux of the matter that ought to be considered by those who believe homosexuals can (and/or should) be reformed.
Forgive the simplistic and aruably idiotic-on-some-level analogy, but I think it not altogether inappropriate:
If someone loves chocolate ice cream, and hates vanilla, you *may* be able to reverse that on some level, but only with brainwashing techniques, never with anything honest or straight-forward, nor with pure "logic" or argumentation. Otherwise, if you're not fully successful, but beat it into their heads that chocolate is of the devil, and vanilla is the way and the light, they may start eating vanilla, though it almost makes them physically ill, but they're going against their innate, low-level desires, only having temporarily repressed them (they're sure as hell not going to yell "JESUS!" when they consumate their union with vanilla). They'll still love if not the taste, at least the memory of the chocolate, and feel the associated guilt of loving something evil. The guilt alone of being themselves evil for so strongly wanting that which is evil may be enough to destroy them. If not, it's only a matter of time before they start sneaking off to Baskin Robins for illicit rendezvous, or, at the very least, experimenting by topping vanilla ice cream with Hershey's syrup.
I think my analogy took on a life of it's own there, but I hope I made a point.
my avatar is a pic of a cool car, obviously.
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"(anybody who registered an email address when they signed up to JWN can upload their own picture at Gravatar.com)"
Cool, was able to change mine to Ghaleon from the original Lunar: The Silver Star.
prince is in the july issue of ebony.
in the article they called him a devout if questioning jw.
i dont see what he was questioning.
Witness 007: "How does his song go?..............what's it called?.........It goes ..........."Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1975!!!!!!!!! You know the one!"
Niiiiiiice! :-)
But you have to wonder if he even knows about the 1975 stuff. And the 1940s stuff. And 1920s/1914/1874(?), etc. I'm guessing not.
hmm?
heres a question i was wondering about.. if you were in a situation like that, would you pray to god?.
i'm not sure i would.
"I'd probably be making out with the person next to me, why not? That would be better use of my time and energy."
What an awesome existential choice! :-)
I'd probably actually be cursing G/god(s) all the way down rather than praying. ;-)
hmm?
heres a question i was wondering about.. if you were in a situation like that, would you pray to god?.
i'm not sure i would.
"According to a survey, 20% of the Atheists prays from time to time."
Yeah, but I'm not sure that prayers to Satan, Eris, and Wotan are quite what most people have in mind when they hear that factoid. :-)
i ordered a book from the freeminds.org online store, and am very happy with the transaction.
my book shipped out and arrived quickly, double-wrapped and in good condition, and i even got a nice little bonus with my order.
if you still haven't gotten your copy of crisis of conscience or some of the other must-reads, consider helping support randy's excellent site.
I ordered a book from the freeminds.org online store, and am very happy with the transaction. My book shipped out and arrived quickly, double-wrapped and in good condition, and I even got a nice little bonus with my order. If you still haven't gotten your copy of Crisis of Conscience or some of the other must-reads, consider helping support Randy's excellent site. Also for sale are CDs, DVDs, and inexpensive downloads, some of which are actually free.
are you single and looking for a soul mate?
or do you consider yourself to be available?
please, declare on this thread..
Romance has largely been disproved, however. Consult any divorce statistic. Sex is alive with all its
ramifications.....How can two adults NOT end up hating each other in the long run? That I'd like to know.
Terry: perhaps if our expectations more closely matched what is undoubtedly the statistical social norm, namely serial monogomy, we'd all be quite a bit happier. The "one true love" and "till death do us part" ideas don't align with empirical reality for most people, so why are they still almost universally held onto as both the ideal and the perceived norm? No doubt bullshit morality, specifically "sexual ethics," plays no small role in this.
