Posts by A.Fenderson

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I'm so very saddened right now

by sooner7nc in

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i just received this from an old friend on fb.

i can't hang with an apostate or someone cheering.

on apostates...of course, if jw's are not your cup.

A.Fenderson

Wow, that sucks. I'm sorry this is happening with your friend.

Maybe one day he'll see the org for what it is, and come around himself.

Meanwhile, we apostates are happy to have you here with us.

Also, PM sent.

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Atheism, the absence of someone to pray to.

by cyberjesus in

i was talking several days ago with a believer who was telling me what an atheist is.

i personally do not have any gods, therefore i consider myself an atheist.

however this person was telling me that an atheist says there is no god.

A.Fenderson

@Terry: I agree with what you've said here, in the abstract. However....

When a theist goes so far as to describe their deity in great detail, outlining his supposed qualities, powers, etc, then at that point, one is able to take the implications that such a deity would have on the world, and contrast and compare this to the world our senses present to us. When we find blatant, irreconcilable differences in these two universes--the one our senses indicates and the one this god would imply--we are able safely to say "This version of god does not exist, and in regards to it, I am an atheist." All the while realizing, of course, that this is an "opinion", but based on positive evidence of how the perceivable universe exists in utter contrast to this god's supposed qualities and powers, and not based merely on lack of direct evidence of the god's existence.

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Johnny the mysterious bethelite .. Six Screens conference call tonight Sat.Jan 15, 2011

by koolaid-man in

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announcement........ http://sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/upcoming.html.

we are all anticipating the return of the active bethelite ,johnny, who was hiding in a closet talking to us from the world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses.

link to jan.1,2011 call.... http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/conferencecall-1-1-11.html .

A.Fenderson

moderator: "If [Johnny] is for real, this could be the biggest thing since Crisis of Conscience." Nice.

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1975, Freddie Franz and Eve's Menstrual Cycle

by Band on the Run in

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i was active back then and terrorized by armageddon.

my basic temperament is introspective.

i never felt worthy enough.

A.Fenderson

I don't remember that schtick about "Eve's" menstrual cycle, but I've got news for ol' Freddy....
Menstrual cycles are a part of being a MAMMAL

Yes, but do perfect human women menstruate?

Does God cry?

Do unicorns shit gold?

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Do You Think the Internet Currently Contains All Mankind's Accumulated Knowledge?

by journey-on in

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can you find answers to anything you want to know currently via the internet?

is all accumulated knowledge "out there"?.

A.Fenderson

What I had for lunch.

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Do You Think the Internet Currently Contains All Mankind's Accumulated Knowledge?

by journey-on in

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can you find answers to anything you want to know currently via the internet?

is all accumulated knowledge "out there"?.

A.Fenderson

No.

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The Problem with Religion

by whereami in

"it really is terribly simple, .

1) models with predictive capability are of utility.

2) science is in a class of its own, a process without competitors, when it comes to its ability to form such models.. .

A.Fenderson

@free2beme: excellent critique of religion. When you say "it is the only form of society, in which people of all educational levels and rational thinking, can step in and ignore all the truths that life has taught them," that seems dead-on, excepting perhaps politics. Religion, though, merely encompasses most of the systematic and ornately-structured paradigms of non-sane belief that are shared among two to several billion people. The root of the problem lies deeper: non-critical, non-sane thinking (though sometimes lying very deep in the mind and even obscured by painstakingly-learned systems of rational thought) seems almost universally pervasive. Whether this is an inherent trait of the human mind, or merely an unfortunate side-effect of one or more aspects that all human cultures have in common--such as naturally-evolved language--seems up for debate. If this deeply ingrained inability to think rationally and critically can be found to derive from one or more non-essential elements of global human culture, perhaps it's not too late nor too daunting a task for us to identify and eliminate the root cause. At least, I hope so.

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If man was perfect

by therevealer in

and in that perfection (you know how jah looked down and said it was all good) man had a foreskin, then why would he ask the israelites to snip it off.

would it not be a contradiction to act in this way?

?.

A.Fenderson

Just because something is good, doesn't mean that the need might arise for something to change down the line.

Not "good," but "perfect." Perfection is generally agreed to mean an absolute state of flawlessness. That's not to say that every aspect of that perfection is both necessary and exclusive, though. And, playing devil's advocate, from the JW-standpoint, by the time Israelites existed, man was no longer considered perfect.

One answer to your question, though, is this: because every bit of what's written both in the bible and in every WT publication was written by a human being, and most of it by human beings with incredibly flawed and uncritical thinking skills.

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