anyone noticing any odd "more secretive-than-usual" type behavior among jws very recently?.
kind of like "somethings-up" mode?.
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I havent' been for what seems a long time, but I guess about 8 months and before that it wasn't regular by any means. I felt a change then, but I couldn't pin point it. I felt like I missed another crazy announcement. It felt like they were hounding and hounding going out in service, attending the meetings. Oh wait they have been doing that all along. MY Bad.
No but really. I noticed it too. But I can't figure it out.
why don't jw's have sunday school for kids?
i don't want to give the cult any ideas, but it sure would help them to keep the families in, plus be more mainstream in the eyes of the public.. oh my god, the indoctrination you could do on little minds in sunday school, rather than the mind-numbing age-inappropriate stuff kids have to sit through in the watchtower study..
This was actually a reason why I am trying to fade. I have two young children. They are bored senseless. They can only read the my book of bible stories or the great theacher book so many times. I spent the a total of 5 years, carrying babies, trying to keep them quiet, happy, and then try to get something out of the meeting myself. My hubby wasn't attending much anymore and I was on my own during the meetings. Plus at home, we were responsible for teaching them. What a waste of time at the meetings.
I work with children and have learned so much about their development and learning. Kids don't learn the way we forced them at the meetings. It is mind numbing mind control.
i have a problem.
my hubby and i are tying to fade out completely, but we ran into a snag.
my in-laws showed up with a stack of time slips and said that they will turn them in for us if we fill them out.
I have a problem. My hubby and I are tying to fade out completely, but we ran into a snag. My in-laws showed up with a stack of time slips and said that they will turn them in for us if we fill them out. There are 8 of them for each of us. 8 for me and 8 for my hubby. We haven't been to a meeting in over 6 months. We did have a really nice brother stop by to check on us about 4 months ago. Just a sweet guy, who has been a friend of the family for years. But he is the only one. My in-laws attend all the time and are wonderful people and have left us alone about our decision to not go to the meetings. But I think they were pressured to bring the slips to us.
What do I do? If I refuse to fill them out, are they going to show up at the door demanding them.
Both my hubby and I agree that it is non of their business if I talk about God or not. Let that be between me and him. So I don't want to do it,but I don't want them showing up at our door. But I also don't want them to think ohhh this works, lets send the slips home with the in-laws and they can just get them.
Any of you want to tell me how you quit turning in time. I need some advice.
Thanks
Crazy2try
i played a role in a convention drama when i was 14. it was a really poxy modern day drama.
something about catching my bigger brother puffing on a cigarette lol.
i had to practice the part for months in a dogey american accents.
I had one when I was about 14 at a CA. I actually really enjoyed it. I originally was going to lipsync but right before I went on the brothers behind the stage were not prepared for me to do that. So thankfully I actually remember the lines. It was a part about a young teen who moved out to young and wanted to return home after finding out the world was a lot harder to deal with. I pretended to phone my mother and have a conversation with her. What was funny, I thought was that my mom was behind the wall talking into a mic and chatting with me.
I'll be honest I liked the attention from doing things like that. I love a good pat on the back, a job well done. I always enjoyed giving the easy talks cause someone would always complement me. Goodness,.....well I am being honest. Shallow but honest.
hi all, i am new to the forum and recently left the witnesses.
i was excited to see this site and enjoyed reading a lot of the posts.
it is nice to read so many of the same thoughts and feelings that i have had over the years.
Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. I will have to post my story sometime. But right now I am just plain tired. We had a three day weekend here and I had to go back to work today. I recently began to work in Child Welfare and have been learning a lot about the world that I have been protected from. lol. I am not a social worker, but I do work with the parents and children. I think what amazes me is the giving that the local churches do for the foster parents, parents and children. I really saw that there are so many church organizations really giving to people in need. Physically, mentally, financially,and spiritually. It was this that finally made me say "What the heck?" Witnesses do none of these things, yet we say we do. Where? Not in a way that benefits those locally!
For my husband he has been annoyed by many things over the years, but he is such a wonderful guy that he has taken with a stride and done what he wanted anyways.
Over the last 10 yrs, we have slowly quit attending as many meetings. My husband has attended even less, we have always been able to blame his work, he works in the medical field. I did attend the last convention, and was annoyed for a great deal of it. The drama was horrible and the actors who portrayed the witness family, did a lot of finger pointing. It was horrible, oh I said that. My son even leaned over and said "mom i am glad you don't point at me like that."
I went to the last 2 day assembly also, hoping to find some encouragment. I wanted to get up and go home half way through. That was the first time that I really felt like that. I went to a meeting, and heard a comment that I didn't like and I wanted to stand up and argue with them.
I told my husband that when I got home, he agreed that I was done too. So I haven't gone back since.
There is alot more to my story. But thankfully it is a little more on the odd side then a sad tale. Anyways another time.
please don't say, "yes, for obvious reasons".. it's not obvious to me..
I agree with the women.
But it reminded me of a situation years ago with my husband. We have a great relationship. We were probably married for 10 yrs by this time. He went on a business trip to LA. I knew the one guy he went with would take him to see some pretty ladies. For some reason it didn't bother me. Well he came home, was fine for a while and then had a major guilt trip one night. He had paid a lady to perform a lap dance. He had been a witness since he was 16 and never partied like that. Anyways, he was crying and wanted me to forgive him. I actually laughed and told him he was being silly. I was a little suprised by my reaction, but I think it was cause he felt so guilty.
Sometimes I surprise myself.
mine was filled with shock and anger but mostly anger.
it made me feel that way because i have never been lied to like that growing up in the religion with it being all you know.
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I am still in the denial stage....I have a moment of panic once and awhile, but I don't have or want to take the time to deal with it right now. I just want to go one day at a time, preparing for the little choices I have to make in my life. example, I started a new job in November, I decided before I started that I was not going to tell my new co-workers that I don't celebrate any of the holidays and I enjoyed the normal work holiday stuff.
my sister is getting baptized soon.
she's still talking to me but i'm sure it won't be for much longer.
i've already asked her the following questions:.
For me, it was the question. If you want so many to come to be a JW, why don't they have a sign outside of the KH that says "Welome, come in anytime!" And why don't JW's do fund raisers to help those in need outside of their KM's locally?
I have always, had extra big heart for ones in need, and this really made me stop and think.
with me it never actually was the case.all i remember and still hear is make sure you stay with jehovah....sometimes you just get tired of the same terd getting shoved down your throat..
For me it was about the same as other witnesses raises from Birth. But I remember a odd moment with my dad who was a elder at the time. I was 15 and wanted to get baptized and he did not want me to. He told me I was to young and didn't understand the choice I was making. I convinced him otherwise. It was odd because all growing up, he never said anything to me and my brothers about waiting until we had lived life a bit longer. He is no longer a witness either.
hi all, i am new to the forum and recently left the witnesses.
i was excited to see this site and enjoyed reading a lot of the posts.
it is nice to read so many of the same thoughts and feelings that i have had over the years.
Hi All, I am new to the forum and recently left the witnesses. I was excited to see this site and enjoyed reading a lot of the posts. It is nice to read so many of the same thoughts and feelings that I have had over the years. I think a lot of my non-witness friends don't really understand when I try to explain it to them.
I am lucky in the fact that so many of my childhood friends that were raised the same as I was, are also not envolved with the witnesses anymore. I recently have made contact with so many of them through facebook, since I moved so far away so many years ago. I do have 2 brothers still in the ORG, that are not aware of my change. Both my parents fell away a long time ago, I have not shared this with them either. But my husband and I are sure of our decision and are ready to move forward.
I hope to visit often, cause changes are happening for me and I will be looking for some support. My husband and I have been fading for a long time, but our challenge is that we have his parents who are wonderful people and always been supportive -that are still JW's. They live very near by. I do not see them as the traditional ones that will treat us ill for our decisions. But we have not let them know how we have been feeling for so long. They are so wonderful that it will be difficult to tell them, I know they will be dissapointed. But I think they will understand. They were ones that took over 10 yrs of studing to join the JW's.
So that is where I am. Like I said.....It is nice to find a place where there are others like me.
