What I see. It is all about control. I know when my parents joined they truly felt the end was near and they moved to where the need was great. There was a huge growth in the early 70's-per my parents. I think the org is trying to recreate that movement again.
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They keep pushing and pushing for the rank and file to do more and more. Dec 15 WT
by life is to short inthey are causing mental problems by pushing and pushing the ones in to do more and more and more.. the dec 15th wt on page 7 says .
"you have a document that needs a certain person's attention by the end of the day.
you mare it urgent!
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Son asked today
by crazy2try inneither of them ever asked to go.
he then asked about my family.
he asked if that was because my mom is no longer a jw.
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Thanks everyone for the support. Black Sheep I will get that book. I would love to teach my children how to think for themselves. I know that I will not be making their decisions for them much longer. They will be teens soon and making a lot of choices with out me. So scary, but anyways.
I grew up as a JW. I can honestly say my life has been very healthy because of the choices and beliefs my parents taught me. I thought that had to do with the JW religion so I continued down the same path with my children. But I now understand they are core values and can be taught with out the JW organization. I have met so many wonderful families and children outside of JW's that I know I can do it without them.
Thankfully, my only family that are still active are my in-laws. And so far they have been very understanding and have not asked why we are not going. I think once a few months back, my mother-in-law said "A lot of people say they miss you at the meetings." I blew it off with a "that's nice." and changed the subject. She hasn't said anything since.
So I keep going, day after day. It really has been nice not having the guilt anymore.
I chose the name Crazy2try orginally cause when I joined, I figured that this might all backfire on me, but I needed to take that chance.
This site has given me a way to express myself when I need to and get feedback from people who understand. Thanks everyone.
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Son asked today
by crazy2try inneither of them ever asked to go.
he then asked about my family.
he asked if that was because my mom is no longer a jw.
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Hadit, Thank you. I needed your kind words before I went to bed tonight. I didn't get the chance to talk to my husband about this yet, He had to go to work. So I will have to let him know tomorrow. It is hard to have these conversations when the children are around. Again, Thank you.
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Son asked today
by crazy2try inneither of them ever asked to go.
he then asked about my family.
he asked if that was because my mom is no longer a jw.
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Sorry I don't get on here as much as I need to. I so love the helpful, encouraging, funny things posted on this board. Here is the latest. I had a major break threw with my son today.
My son and I were home today cleaning in his room. He had just spent the night with a friend (a catholic) who dropped him off before they went to church. While chatting about his day finally he asked me (he's 11) why we don't go to meetings anymore (mindfull he didn't say lately).
I haven't discussed our family fading with him. Today was the day. I guess I was just waiting to see how the children took it. Neither of them ever asked to go. But they have said that they miss seeing some of the JW friends there. We haven't gone to the meeting in almost a year. None of the parents of those children have called. We have had on two occasions two elders stop by to check on us. I always smile and thank them for their concern and blame it on being so busy. Which we are. But that is all another story.
Anyways I proceeded to explain to him that it has been mostly my decision and that Dad is giving me sometime to let me think about things. He asked what was bothering me, so I went on to explain that I believe that we need to seperate what is God's will and what is Man's. I went on to explain that somethings that God wants us to do are in the bible. He wants us to preach, but he doesn' t say we have to turn in our time. He wants us to gather together, but he doesn't say several times a week and if you don't then you are looked down upon. I even explained to him the difference in how I grew up and how I am raising him. Such as I couldn't play with my neighbors. I didn't play sports or go after my talents or dreams. He seemed to listen and understand. He is a very thoughtful boy. Goodness I hate this. He then asked me when I began to feel like this. I told him the truth, since I was little. But the turning point for me was very simple. It was a talk given by a member of the GB at a two day Assembly. The brother repeatedly spoke about not touching the loved ones around you. ex: wraping an arm around your husband, placing your hand on your child's head and so on. That it might stumble the ones around you. I know the brother meant excessive petting, but really. I asked my son if he remember what he said to me during that talk. He didn't of course. I explained he leaned over to me and said "Why don't they just keep their eyes closed?" My son laughed and then said he now remembered, because when he said that he remembered that I almost burst out laughing. I think I was really struggling at that point not to get up and cause a scene and walk out with my kids. I went on to explain that the talk was the last talk of the meeting. It should be encouraging and building your love for God, not giving us more rules to follow. He seemed to understand that.
He then asked about my family. My Mom and Dad are no longer witnesses and I have three brothers. My parents divorced almost 12 years ago. My mom could no longer handle the stress of being married to a Elder. She faded. My Dad stepped down and eventually faded. Both remarried. Of my brothers-one is disfellowshiped, a second contimplating fading and the third very very structured as a JW. My son knows all this, but then he remembered that when we visited my family, whom we see maybe once a year, my JW brother spent only a few hours with our family and my mom but would not come around the rest of my family. He asked if that was because my mom is no longer a JW. I teared up and had to tell him "yes." Though my brother doesn't know we are fading. I explained that to my son. He immediately understood that his Uncle was avoiding the rest of the family because of the JW Doctrine. I choked up a bit. My son says "Mom, how about we take a break and go eat some lunch." Good Kid.
I had a hard time holding it together for a few minutes. Thankfully one of my son's silly neighborhood friends showed up. They ran off to play together.
Really should my son have to worry about issues like this. I hate that I didn't fade years ago. Now I have to drag my children through this. No child should have to worry about anything like this. UGH.
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They guy in the middle looks like a famous general.
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The Ever Hilarious Awake Magazine!
by metatron inthousands of years ago, greek philosophers advised, "know thyself".
if the watchtower society had existed back then, they would now hold the record for the most un-self aware and oblivious to their faults - religion ever!.
it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
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wt taught me plenty....
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I raised my hand...I was the only one who hadn't smoked
by crazy2try ini was with a group of my co-workers.
we work with people who have addictions.
one woman in our huddle was going off about how everyone in the room as tried weed.
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You guys are great. I appreciate it. It is just that sometimes I am in a room of people and I just don't get it. Like today....I said to a client ...(I work for DHS w/ parents with addictions)......"I'll meet you at 4:20." A co-worker overheard me and later teased me saying "I can't beleive you said that to her." I responded with the ususaly "what?"
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found sheep...I am right there with you
Rules that change....
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Autism
by ProdigalSon inthe subject has come up in my reincarnation thread and i think its worthy of its own.. when i saw the movie "rain man", what amazed me the most about what raymond was able to do (i.e., counting the number of matches in a matchbox after a glance, or memorizing all the names and numbers in a large phone book in a matter of minutes) was that it proves that a human mind is capable of performing the functions of a computer and more.
why then, do we not a: all have these supercomputer abilities, and b., why is an autistic person lacking in other areas such as social skills?
my second son was born in 1992 with a lipoma on his tail bone which was also wrapped around his spinal cord.
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Wow, I have worked with a few different children in my past labeled with Autism. Most of them diagnosed as very high functioning children. These children all came from a variety of homes. One family, the mother is a District Manager and the Father is a photographer for a well known magazine. Another family, dad is a doctor and mom stays at home. All four parents are college educated, one child from each family is autistic, but the others are not. Another family I know Mom is a teacher, she has an older boy who is Autistc and a younger son who is considered very intelligent. He was moved up several grades.
The other children I have worked with, issues seem to run in their familes. Like it is genetic. Siblings have other learning disabilities.
I know from what research I have attempted to do....there seems to be no identifiable cause. At least that we are being told.
From what I read it seems there may be a gene in a family that may be easily changed by an outside environmental cause.
Sorry if I am not making any sense. I am tired and should be in bed.
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I raised my hand...I was the only one who hadn't smoked
by crazy2try ini was with a group of my co-workers.
we work with people who have addictions.
one woman in our huddle was going off about how everyone in the room as tried weed.
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I was with a group of my co-workers. We work with people who have addictions. One woman in our huddle was going off about how everyone in the room as tried weed. I smirk....Everyone nods their heads and little stories start being told by everyone in the room. When it came my turn, all eyes on me...I raised my hand and said "I must confess I have never smoked weed, I don't even know how to try." The one who started the conversation laughed and said "I beleive it."
It was all in good fun. But dang, what have I missed.......
And no matter what I am different and will always be....People look at me and know I was raised a goodie two shoes....I guess I can't shake off the JW upraising. It is on my face and in my eyes. I have thought about getting peircings and tatoos,but I don't think that will even hide it.