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  Since Leaving "The Truth" Are You Really Happier?

  by minimus in

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  witnesses say that when people leave "the truth", they get involved in a debauched life, misery, and general unhappiness.. they give experiences of some that left the "sweet fellowship" of the "brotherhood" and the awful results because of it.

  then, they come back and their lives change 100% for the better!.

  have you found life to be miserable and unproductive since "leaving jehovah"?.

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  I am more content with myself. I don't feel stressed, guilty about service and attending meetings. I have accepted that I needed to leave and am still figuring out a lot of things. But I feel like I have released a weight that was pushing on me from all sides. I struggled with leaving for over 10 years, and in the last 2 have been made it a commitment to get out. I am much happier, but somewhat in limbo. Friends of mine that have know me for years say that I seem much more relaxed. I feel that way too.
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  Were You Ever Counseled Because Of What You Wore (or didn't)?

  by minimus in

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  after reading the thread about what is acceptable to wear and not wear in a factory run by jehovah's witnesses, i wondered whether any here ever got counseled or in trouble because of their fashion sense or attire.

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  goodness....some of this is so funny.

  Over the past two years of our fading, I have allowed my son to grow his hair the way he wants. It is now pretty long, it covers his ears and touches the collar on his shirts in the back. We attened the Memorial and nobody said anything to us. I am sure they were talking about it later.

  As far as our clothes when I grew up. There was a lot of counsel from the stage about modest dress. But I found that there were several people in our hall who wore some odd stuff and still do. I admired them for their choices and not conforming to the JW norm. The hall I attened was pretty strick on hair styles.

  I married and moved out West and found that the hall we attened was not as strict when it came to the Hair. I realized it was a matter of who was in the halls and who really cared. I always made sure that I didn't have to much leg exposed, but I wore those tight dresses that had the slit and I cn guarantee you that when my JW boyfriend was looking I let him take a peek at my thigh. I love to watch his eyes light up. Goodness that was a long time ago.
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  If someone is benefitting from being in a cult, should we leave them there?

  by Confuzzled in

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  if scientology has narcanon, and it has gotten people off drugs (although that 85% sucess rate they say they have is suspect), and becoming a jw sorta forces you into line, would it make sense to leave someone in if they were helping them?

  if you knew somebody was a drunk, sex addict, drug addict, what have you, and they were studying, and it appeared that they were actually being helped (albeit by twisted means) would you leave them be?

  like, if uncle jim was a fall down drunk that ran around on his wife, then someone introduced him to the wts, and it all stopped, would you still try and expose the cult even if they were actually helping and it was working?.

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  I know many would disagree, but the thought that people trade one addiction for another is very true. I work with many people like this and I hear all the time that they have found a type of religion and are very zealous in their new faith. Something I hear all the time is that they traded their addiction.

  I figure if they are happy, leave them alone. But if they express some discontent then help, but not push.
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  question about judicial committee meetings

  by peaches in

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  a couple of young people about 20years old,,,,were involved with each....they went too far with the being alone situation....not sure if they reported themselves or some one else did...reguardless.....i guess the elders asked both of them extremely embarrassing questions and very very personal ones...like what kind of underwear she wore,,,,,did she have an orgasm.....etc etc..... i do not understand why this is done?????

  they went too far,,,acknowledged it,,,,met with the elders...why the deep personal questions??

  they already had all the information they needed...... i should know these things,,,being in the borg for 30 years...but i don't,,,i really do not understand why????

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  As a young teen, I was in a situation similar to your friends. I was asked these sort of quesitons and answered them. I felt really lucky at the time though, my father who was an elder sat in the room with me. He had asked me these same horrible questions before the meeting, but sat quietly while I answered them in front of the other brothers. It was horrible. But I lived through it. Later my dad told me that he was proud of me for keeping it together during that meeting.

  I am sure there are alot of others here who were asked those type of questions.
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  At a 2 day assembly ...the point that the brother spoke about that drove me mad....."don't hug your husband, wife or child during prayer".

  by crazy2try in

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  i attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk.

  the brother was from bethal and well jw's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right.

  well anyways i lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time.

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  Dacheech....Sorry to hear about your wife.

  I think for some people it takes a lot to help them see the control the society is trying to have, get, maintain. My feelings are, God and Family are the two most important things to me. I would never grope my husband at the hall, but have always maintained warm respectful contact with my husband. One arm wrapped around his back and vice versa. Holding each other's hands, and then reaching out to place my hand on my son or daughters shoulder.

  Like I said, I was very angry about it. I had several thoughts, but one that I think JW's need to consider, is that now, during their prayer they have to be mindful on not touching their loved one, feeling guilty if they do, or thinking about how much they don't care about this rule if they choose to ignore it. So what do they get from the prayer then?

  I know I have seen other rules that bothered me in the past, but this one hit the nerve. I wanted to stand and yell out "How dare you tell me how behave during a prayer?" If I want to silently dance like a monkey, I will do it. It is senseless to hand out rule after rule. It creates so much crap....like what Crisis of Conscience was talking about. There are more important things to focus on. But for me I wanted to focus on the postives as a witness, praising God more, but well.....each meeting I attened was a let down. Where is the praise?

  I think someone asked if they talked about Facebook at this assembly? They did, they said it was a timewaster. Which I agree, but I love it anyways.

  I came home that night and told my husband about what was talked about at the end of the assembly. He got as upset as I did and really didn't believe that it could be true. He had trouble understanding why they would even end a assembly that way. But my in-laws verified it when he asked them. They don't like it either,but still keep going.
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  What are some of the funniest things you've seen during a prayer, and you could'nt laugh out loud?

  by african GB Member in

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  My Daughter also farted. But she also said out loud when she was about 3, "I stepped in sheep shit." LOL.....I was able to blame my JW father in law. He had said that once when she was with him. I started to laugh and so did several people around me.
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  At a 2 day assembly ...the point that the brother spoke about that drove me mad....."don't hug your husband, wife or child during prayer".

  by crazy2try in

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  i attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk.

  the brother was from bethal and well jw's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right.

  well anyways i lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time.

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  I attended one day of a two day assembly and did ok until the very last talk. The brother was from Bethal and well JW's pay closer attention to their talks, cause that is when some new info is given,,,right. Well anyways I lost focus and began to daydream, cause it became one of those talks that just talks about wasting time. I was so annoyed.

  Anyways, the brother then started to talk about stumbling others. He goes on to say that you should not hold onto, hug, touch the hair of your husband, wife, child during the prayers, cause it might bother others who feel that prayer is a one on one connection between you and god. I always put my arm around my husband and vice versa. Or reach over and pull my children close.

  My 10 yr old son ...who is listening ....leans over and says "Mom, how could it bother them if their eyes are closed?" I actually laughed out loud. He said exactly what I was thinking.

  I thought the brother would only mention it just once,,,,but he repeated it several times even recapping at the end. I was so angry at the end. I think that was one of the worst talks I have ever heard. I was so mad about it. That was when I realised I can't take it anymore.
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  Immunizations?

  by crazy2try in

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  i have a question.

  today at work a woman was saying that she was upset because the foster mother of her children had taken the children to the dr and they received their immunization shots.

  she told a co-worker that she was mad because they did not respect her beliefs.

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  Thanks for the comments. I am not even sure if this lady is a witness. She doesn't look (tatoos up and down her arms bad teeth) or act like one, but I was surprised by the reaction that she received. It was kind of "Oh those crazy witnesses don't give their kids vacines." I was floored and countered it. With "I was raised as a witness and all my brothers, my children and I had our vacines, that was her choice, not a witness doctrine." But now I can see that this lady may have been holding on to a old doctrin and I was only half right in my statement.
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  Do JWs women use Birth Control?

  by Mr. Monday Night in

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  do jws women use birth control?.

  i always wanted to know what their views were on birth control.

  ciao,.

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  I was on the pill just before my hubby and I got married 14 yrs ago. I went off it when we wanted to have children. About 5 yrs ago, he got a vas, we didn't bring the elders into it. I don't think we even considered doing that. When I told some of our witnesse friends, non of them acted like it was wrong.
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  The Last of the Mohicans (1992)

  by possible-san in

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  i love this movie.. .

  the last of the mohicans-main theme .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tide5c0ofc.

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  crazy2try

  What I loved about this movie was that each scene was so beautiful. I couldn't think of any part of that movie that was not beautiful in some form.