Posts by Lozhasleft

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Newbie: Roll Call ---- Oldies Returning: Roll Call

by cameo-d in

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i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.

(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).

so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .

Lozhasleft

Thank you for the welcome ...I will post a link to my introduction story at the end of this post...

I left the org in 2006/7 after a cruel disfellowshipping...its taken me til a few weeks ago to come and nosey around online without feeling evil for doing it...I'm glad I have...I'm strong enough now to deal with what I'm finding and learning....

I love this forum ...the stories and experiences and expressions of sorrow and grief break my heart ...the ex elders revelations make my stomach churn...but I so needed to hear it all.

The responses to my posting here, have included more loving kindness than I received in the KH and from those who should have shown it, for a very long time.

I have a wonderful happy life now- but this past most of us share is such a part of who I am today - and I'm very happy and honoured to meet you all.

Loz x

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191090/1/Hello-this-is-my-story

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I LIKE Y'ALL, TOO!!!

by snowbird in

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this is just a note to all who have assured me of their fondness for me, on board and in pm.. i really appreciate it, and i feel the same about y'all.. this is a great site, and i do get a bit carried away at times.. blame it on too much loneliness and not enough to do on the job, but not on deliberate crassness.. ok?.

thanks!.

sylvia.

Lozhasleft

Agree with each other, love each other, be deep-spirited friends. Don't push your way to the front; don't sweet-talk your way to the top. Put yourself aside, and help others get ahead. Don't be obsessed with getting your own advantage. Forget yourselves long enough to lend a helping hand.

Loving this Sylvia...high five to you

Loz xx

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Question regarding Jesus the Judge, Jehovah the judge.. serious replies please

by callitquits76 in

i was just wondering how a jehovah's witness would answer this.. in john 5:22, the nwt states:.

"the father judges no one, but has committed all the judging to the son".

in rev 18:8, the nwt states:.

Lozhasleft

Cant see how that backs up a 'three gods in one god' Chalam? I've followed the link quoted and its such a convoluted theoristic deliberation with even different types of trinity involved. Jesus spoke in simple terms to reach ordinary humble people that wouldnt have required deep theological analysis at all..just honest hearts....how can men seemingly 'make' a trinity god to suit themselves when there's no mention of one in the scriptures baffles me ! Appreciating people's efforts though. Loz x

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I suppose this is a stupid question about elders

by dgp in

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i believe one of the harder pills for an unbeliever to swallow would be the idea of being in submission to the body of elders.

we're just not used to the concept of a clergyman having authority over us in matters that are not spiritual and, even then, i know for a fact that many a catholic will not do was the priest wants without any fear of being excommunicated.

i suppose this is something you just have to accept if you're a jw.

Lozhasleft

It makes my stomach churn now knowing how much I trusted them with our family's lives...

Loz x

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What kind of Witness were you?

by EmptyInside in

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there always seemed to be some witnesses who seemed to be in it for the social aspect of it.

the ones who planned most of the gatherings and trips.

and the ones who got invited to the parties two states away.

Lozhasleft

I was in the thick of it for a long time...pioneering, invited onto the quickbuild purchasing team, wife of a busy MS and pioneer, son in Bethel, 3 kids aux pioneering, items on assemblies, volunteer sisters talks and demos...dozens of RVs...lots of studies...hospitality every other week for a mixed crowd from the cong....you name it...

I couldnt stand nepotism, favouritism or hypocrisy...I hated the lovelessness... I would fight verbally for the ones like White Dove (dreadful treatment of you there hun) and the poorer and older bros and sis ...it was only a question of time really until I made too many waves...if you dont play the game you gain enemies in there....

Loz x

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Question regarding Jesus the Judge, Jehovah the judge.. serious replies please

by callitquits76 in

i was just wondering how a jehovah's witness would answer this.. in john 5:22, the nwt states:.

"the father judges no one, but has committed all the judging to the son".

in rev 18:8, the nwt states:.

Lozhasleft

Herein lies the dilemma for me...these opposing arguments!! John 14 v 28 says 'the father is greater than I am' and the Catholic Encyclopaedia admits the trinity idea was only developed in the 4th century...and Jesus was SENT he said so repeatedly.... which by implication confirms a SENDER...he also insisted he was only the SON of god....and he continually urged followers to love and pray to his father who he was returning to so how can he be a trinity????

I am serious ...please help if you can ...I'd really like to see a reasoned and acceptable argument for the trinity if anyone has one?

Loz x

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Have you hit your 50's? Are you feeling it, or do you still feel young?

by restrangled in

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i'm curious, because in my 40's i felt like a million dollars.

i am starting to feel it,....i just don't have the stamina of working in the yard all day, coming in making dinner and getting the laundry done at the same time, or working full time.. i see the years in my face when i don't get enough sleep, and no amount of makeup makes a difference.

my eyes seem to always look tired.

Lozhasleft

Lol @ some of these...I'm 57 and remember a friend telling me that the deterioration accelerated after 53...I thought 'surely not?' at the time but damn it she was soooo right...physically its a floody nightmare...... but ...since leaving the org and meeting the love of my life ...I've moved to the best UK Northern city and life is so exciting and enjoyable...Uni as a mature student is wonderful...and from somewhere I've found this incredible sense of humour that I've stifled for years......good times !

Loz xx

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When Did You KNOW?

by Cthulhu in

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i and another semi former witless (he's inactive and doesn't actually believe any of the bs) were having a conversation over some beer last night and watchtower land came up into discussion.

i told him that at some point, long before i actually stopped being physically present at the meetings i just knew that i wouldn't be a dub forever.

i remember the fact that i did not even want to admit this to myself and i spent a long long time denying the thought and trying to reestablish "the truth" in my mind.

Lozhasleft

I just could feel my joy ebbing away day by day from around 1998 onwards...and everything I tried to recapture it failed...meetings that I used to love became a drudge with endless WT material and fewer scriptures...

Loz x

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who had a child molester in their congregation ?

by looloo in

i have done this thread a long time ago , but a few newbies have joined recently and may have had some experiances to share , there was 2 in the congregation i was involved with (i was a "study" ) one was from bethel in america and got deported after his prison sentence and the other was reprooved for abuse then carried on abusing in the congregation , years later he abused my daughter and after i found out i reported him to the police , but he had got off "scot free" for 20 years untill i reported him .

i believe the one from bethel was reported to the police simply because elders kids were affected ..

Lozhasleft

There was a PO of a neighbouring congregation who stepped down when he went through a divorce and moved into ours. He did lots of sports etc with our youngsters.He was often round at our home. My sons went on a camping trip with others with him. While they were away I got a bad feeling and drove miles and brought my sons home. A couple of years later he was found guilty of sexual assault on a minor.

In another cong I was in there was an elder, a right pain in the rear, so self righteous. His young step daughter suddenly went off the rails in her teens, next it came out he'd been abusing her. Then it came out that he'd also abused 2 of his younger sisters. This highly respected elder & pioneer had been at it for years and years. Disgraceful. He went to prison.

On the quick build team I was involved with there was a an elder who had oversight of security, and I was on his team. This elder was prominently on the assembly platform etc. He was abusing 2 of his daughters who eventually rang Childline and when the police went to his home with search warrant they broke into a locked room and found a ton of child porn etc. He went to prison.

When I saw the thread I thought 'well we didnt have any...' and then I started to remember...bad isnt it? Now I'm concerned that any of them could be on here...no offence to others though...

Loz x

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What do you think Jesus really meant when he said......

by EndofMysteries in

mark 12:24-27. forget answering the question about who marries who, but the statements he said....."is not this why you are mistaken, your not knowing the scriptures or the power of god?

" "but concerning the dead, that they are raised up, did you not read in the book of moses, in the account about the thornbush, how god said to him, 'i am the god of abraham and god of isaac and god of jacob'?

he is a god, not of the dead, but of the living.

Lozhasleft

Doesnt it go on 'for they are all living to Him' ? I havent checked its what I seem to recall...which alters the meaning somewhat for me....in witness terms it meant that even while asleep in Hades people were 'alive' to Jehovah ...nowadays I'd need to ponder on what I feel it means if not that....sorry not much of an answer is it ?

Loz x