Thats a sad story ...big hugs to you..illustrates more casualties from following the org's advice....how sad for your mum to have to deal with all that too..are you all still witnesses?
Loz x
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My tale of woe
by serenitynow! ini guess i should tell my story.
i'm a born in.
both parents are jw, they did the pioneer serve where the need is great thing.
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Age of Adam
by goddidit indoes anyone happen to know what the jws have to say about this?.
i know apologists usually have a convoluted answer for everything but i just can't think how they could possibly defend this.
so, each 'day' of creation is 7000 years long, adam was created on the 6th 'day', god rested on the 7th 'day', adam then dies at an age of something like 930 years!!.
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I got to thinking about this some years back when the thought was that we were 'waiting' for the gap between Adam's age and Eve's age...anyway...a bit of a tangent sorry but...
We can presume from the Genesis account that Adam was a man when Eve was created...and Eve must have been a full grown woman for God to have blessed them to multiply etc....which means that they couldn't have been in the garden very long together afterwards at all because...as 'perfect' man and woman they would have conceived children more or less immediately wouldnt they? ...however...they were thrown out before she conceived Cain...otherwise he would have inherited the perfection....
Loz x
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has anyone ever met Ray Franz?
by poor places ini guess you would have to be kind of old school to have met the guy.
i've only met a current gb member before he joined.
he seemed nice.
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Thank you Blondie ...I've sent a short email to express my thanks for his wonderful book which has affected me so deeply but at the same time has provided great comfort. I really just wanted to do that.
Loz x
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has anyone ever met Ray Franz?
by poor places ini guess you would have to be kind of old school to have met the guy.
i've only met a current gb member before he joined.
he seemed nice.
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Blondie - Is that an email address to contact Ray Franz?...I would like to write and thank him for his book if thats possible....
Loz x
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2010 - Year of the Governing Body?
by lepermessiah inlet me explain by what i am getting at without sounding like captain obvious!
i am actually excited about this since i think this could help assist a ton of people out of this organization!!.
i believe that the governing body is stepping up efforts to emphasize their unconditional rulership - every wt study article seems to make reference to their authority.
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What apostasy in the British Bethel? Can anyone enlarge on this please?
Loz x
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2010 Circuit Assembly..........Sunday Program nonsense and madness.
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini went to the sunday circuit assembly and came back all riled up with all the nonsense.. the sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''.
''it is better to remain single and not marry.
that gives you more time for studying and the preaching work.
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i did not realize that these demonstrations were made up.....ok,,,i get dufuss of the year award!!!
Ha ha ha bless you Peaches ...you made me really giggle xx
Loz x
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Does ANYTHING About JWs Make Sense To You?
by minimus ini've been thinking about why people become jehovah's witnesses and why they remain in the religion.. it seems like almost everything they believe in is flawed.. the chronology, which this religion is founded on is a problem.. their understanding of bible prophecy is pathetically funny.
they teach everything in prophetic bible books ultimately apply to them.. their belief that the "faithful & discreet slave class" exists is ridiculous.
in all fairness, they cannot 'prove" anything they say about their organization as being "truth".
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I was familiar with the bible in a 'protestant' kind of way and I'd always loved it and believed in god. I had always been interested in spiritualism strangely enough...then I moved to a new area and got chatting to a neighbour who 'witnessed' to me although she'd left the 'truth' at the time herself....I was fascinated with it...how could they presume they had the 'truth' ....who was this 'Jehovah'...I sought them out and had a study and I wasnt a pushover to study with either...to cut a long story short I stopped questioning and started accepting everything and wanted to 'belong' to them and be approved by Jehovah....I really believed they were the only religion who had the 'truth' and who tried their best to live up to it...
In time you start to see things behind the 'image' and the doubts start ....you go along and are happy to be convinced that you can 'leave it all with Jehovah...' 'wait on Jehovah' etc etc...but it wears you down very gradually ...and then for me I started to feel so deprived of scriptural input and got so bored with the organisational input...there seemed to be so much of it....and then when my life went belly up the wonderful foundations I thought I had weren't there at all...neither were the fine shepherds ....it was like being in a different world from the one I went into all those years before....
The neighbour who witnessed to me has been a lifelong friend, she came back to the org, but since my Df she only sees me now and again and stays in touch via texts...but wont cut me off bless her...
Loz x
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Hello Grace I'm new and pleased to meet you...and I do hope you settle in soon...in a good rebellious way though of course xx
Loz x
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2010 - Year of the Governing Body?
by lepermessiah inlet me explain by what i am getting at without sounding like captain obvious!
i am actually excited about this since i think this could help assist a ton of people out of this organization!!.
i believe that the governing body is stepping up efforts to emphasize their unconditional rulership - every wt study article seems to make reference to their authority.
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I agree totally with donuthole and jwoods ....they are taking full control of the title F&DS ...and diminishing all value of the anointed ....they must believe that God's choices dont really count for anything .....
Loz x
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Setting up trust any suggestions on how to handle our JW daughter?
by Bonnie_Clyde inwe set up a trust a few years ago but have an appointment with our attorney later this month to make sure it is current and make any changes necessary.
originally we had our daughter and our two sons to share equally.
now i feel that it should not be equal.
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Oh dear me I identify so much with you....I am in this exact situation with my youngest daughter although she is only following that same example of her older siblings...that its ok to treat me as if I am 'dead' and no longer exist in her life....it hurts more with her because despite being reared in the cult she always said she couldnt cut me off like this ...and we were so very close until she went to live with her older sister...
I know what you mean that we have to take responsibility to some great extent because like you I was determined to do things 'the right way' when I was a witness...I so regret it now ...I wish I could go back and live life differently...and I really cant advise you about your trust funds....its a difficult one for sure...
Do we admire them for sticking to Jehovah the way they believe they should? Or do we, as well as obviously longing for them to break out of there, wish they would act differently? I hate the whole bloody mess...and I feel for you very much....
Loz x