The WTBS is so heartless the way they hurt people they're supposed to be caring for. Glad to hear that you and your daughter are free!
Loz x
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One experience in our old Kingdom Hall that still HAUNTS me
by Newly Enlightened inthe following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.
an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.
within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.
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Your all invited to Karter's 50th 16 feb in Auckland New Zealand.
by karter inpm me if you want to come.. .
karter..
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Lozhasleft
Wow exciting birthday! Have a great time Karter.
Loz x
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Family in Ruins Lead to my Fade
by CADSkin inid like to give the reason i faded away from the wbts.
not for any personal reason other than the fact that i enjoy reading others heartfelt and very real experiences and feel it may help others.
my mom was dfd for being cheated on.
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Hello and welcome. You show yourself to be a compassionate son to your mother, she must be very proud of you. I can identify with the way elders treat women who are ill treated by their husband. I sought a divorce and the way they handled matters brought me a to breakdown too. It's a cult and these men are mostly ego trippers within it, mostly without real love and compassion, and definitely unskilled in these matters. Once again shame on the WTBS for the pain it inflicts on so many.
Loz x
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Wow, I seem to have made it out alright..
by GoodGuyGreg inhi, new member here, but i've lurked for a while.. for obvious reasons, i won't give too many details about myself, but i thought i'd share my story of what might in the end have been the easiest fade in recorded history.
it's going to be a wall of text, and i'm writing it mostly for myself to get it out of my system, but it is, of course, a pretty open forum, so any comments and most questions are welcome.. here goes:.
what made me realize ttatt was legalism.
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Lozhasleft
Welcome to the forum. That's a really positive story, well done on your fade.
Loz x
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New Beginnings
by LouBelle inthis week monday i started my new job.
initially i didn't have much to do and was left alone in an office for 3 days.
i felt very isolated and uncomfortable.
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Lozhasleft
Well done! Good luck with the weight loss, how are you doing it? I've just restarted after the Xmas hols.
Loz x
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Newbie alert
by Braehead innice to meet you all.
long time lurker, but now i can get my twopenneth in.. a brief history.. born into the religion, but it never really took hold - thankful for an easily bored mind and strong, worldly grandparents.. never very interested - dragged from meeting to field service.
in the teenage years i wanted university and my parents want a pioneer.
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Hello and welcome. So glad to hear that your parents and your family have a good relationship. Well done on finding your way out of there
Loz x
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Fallacy of Baptism "in Holy Spirit"!
by The Searcher inthe following comment taken from the march 1st 2013 watchtower, is nothing new.
to witnesses the world over it's a basic teaching which even the kids understand; "humans with heavenly prospects have been baptized in water and with holy spirit and are thus spirit-begotten disciples of jesus.
" (john 3:3, 5) (both at the same time??????).
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I think it's clear that Band has big issues.
Shelby is completely wrong. As usual. She provides no references. I did.
It's almost schoolgirl rivalry every time. Loz, who wishes everyone peace x
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This is just plain CRAZY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by wasblind in" jehovah's witnesses were not in the concentration camps because they were criminals.. .
when officers wanted someone to shave them, they trusted a witness with the razor, because they knew that no witness would ever use such an instrument as a weapon to harm another human.. .
when ss officers at the auschwits extermination camp needed someone to clean their homes or care for their children, they selected witnesses, because they knew these would not try to escape.. .
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I know, there are so many hidden stories. Primo Levi who wrote the famous "If this is a man" told how they were the strongest in the camps in terms of morale simply because they claimed to understand why it was happening to them, as opposed to the Jews and gypsies et al who felt abandoned by God. They also had the benefit of each others support. Others fought for survival at whatever cost to others. Trouble is the hegemonic collective memory of the JWs is dictated by the WTBS rhetoric so all stories sound the same, and it's almost impossible I'd say, to find any that speak against it. The survivors of course were given martyr status by the org and stories appeared in mags etc giving them special status. Some like Liebster, still travel around giving talks to schools etc in Europe about integrity keeping.
Loz x
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This is just plain CRAZY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by wasblind in" jehovah's witnesses were not in the concentration camps because they were criminals.. .
when officers wanted someone to shave them, they trusted a witness with the razor, because they knew that no witness would ever use such an instrument as a weapon to harm another human.. .
when ss officers at the auschwits extermination camp needed someone to clean their homes or care for their children, they selected witnesses, because they knew these would not try to escape.. .
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I wrote a thesis based on the JW claim to martyrdom during the Holocaust. We visited Sachsenhausen last year. The bible students got the good jobs and were allowed into the village alongside to work in the officers homes. All prisoners received parcels from home, albeit scarce. Primo Levi's book tells of their determined faith in the Auswitch camp. That Rutherford encouraged this martyrdom after writing to Hitler agreeing with anti semitism beggars belief. Even Bible students kids were incarcerated for years. My study focussed on one Simone Liebster who hid under a bed daily to read a miniature bible while in a special reform school. She wouldn't sign a release either. The ones who did sign were usually mothers separated from their children by all accounts. No compensation for those, nor even a collective voice afterwards. Shocking.
Loz x
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Request for Information: Wathctower World War 2 compensation
by Saintbertholdt ini have a youtube channel and make videos from time to time.. i recieved a personal message today in which the person asked me for some information:.
"i had an email from someone saying that after ww2, the jw's campaigned for and received financial compensation for the witnesses that died in the camps.
and that the monies were not used for the victims families.
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Yes it's true, I did a thesis on ' Jehovah'si Witnesses - A Representation of Martyrdom in the Holocaust' - In the 1990s when victims were making claims against the atrocities. The 'ol WTBS joined in and put their claims in. I think they made a collective claim and it seems the money went towards the World Wide Work? Go to the Holocaust Memorial Museum sites for info.
Loz x