I was always naive enough to think that the CO might 'fix' the lovelessness in the body of elders on his visit ! I had such high hopes...and one time when there was a real problem with the service overseer's wife having a thing with her husband's buddy (his MS) to the extent that they had to sit together in the group on a sofa whispering and all sorts of other weirdo behaviours to the extent that local people thought she had 2 husbands...many of us had reported our concerns and the elder body just put us down and let it carry on ....we spoke to the CO about it when he came expecting some backup and he said very challengingly 'Are you seriously suggesting that there are flaws in the body? How dare you?'.....I think I gave up hope at that point....
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Was the Circuit Oversear treated like "a god" in your Congregation!!!
by Witness 007 inmany ass kissers would put their name down so they could have him over for dinner......"okay now, they can't eat milk products,red meat, white meat, flour, sugar, salt, water...." .
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Do you atheists resent the believers on here and do you believers resent the atheists?
by Lozhasleft ini'm wondering how people feel about us exjws either becoming atheists or continuing on with a faith in god?.
do you get angry or frustrated at the opposing view?.
i'm new but i've seen different reactions to both on here...as for me i am happy to live and let live nowadays...its ok with me whatever people want to choose for themselves..... personally i still have enormous faith and love for god....if the jws couldnt destroy it i dont think much else could...?.
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As a JW I always had to be the one who was "right", so I am very relieved that now I don't have to insist on being right anymore!
Yea I can identify with this...and it didnt allow for any alternatives did it? Thats why I think I enjoy listening to others' beliefs or lack of them with an open and reasonable mind these days, and I feel no compunction to insist they accept mine. Since we're all unique individuals we should be allowed to think and believe on that basis. The 'I'm right and everyone else is wrong' mindset is surely much of the cause of wars in our time. It also breeds forbidding our re-evaluating of our views and beliefs that we've experienced in the org which is so restrictive and damning. I dont think control and power have any place in this area of peoples' lives.
Thanks for all your thoughtful responses.
Loz x
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Do you atheists resent the believers on here and do you believers resent the atheists?
by Lozhasleft ini'm wondering how people feel about us exjws either becoming atheists or continuing on with a faith in god?.
do you get angry or frustrated at the opposing view?.
i'm new but i've seen different reactions to both on here...as for me i am happy to live and let live nowadays...its ok with me whatever people want to choose for themselves..... personally i still have enormous faith and love for god....if the jws couldnt destroy it i dont think much else could...?.
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Like Blondie said, it would be stupid to leave such an elitist organization just to become another elitist.
I agree, wholeheartedly, on some other ex sites the mood is often very strong against ones who still believe there's a god, and I dont really get that at all...
Loz x
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Do you atheists resent the believers on here and do you believers resent the atheists?
by Lozhasleft ini'm wondering how people feel about us exjws either becoming atheists or continuing on with a faith in god?.
do you get angry or frustrated at the opposing view?.
i'm new but i've seen different reactions to both on here...as for me i am happy to live and let live nowadays...its ok with me whatever people want to choose for themselves..... personally i still have enormous faith and love for god....if the jws couldnt destroy it i dont think much else could...?.
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Hi all
I'm wondering how people feel about us exJWs either becoming atheists or continuing on with a faith in God?
Do you get angry or frustrated at the opposing view?
I'm new but I've seen different reactions to both on here...as for me I am happy to live and let live nowadays...its ok with me whatever people want to choose for themselves....
Personally I still have enormous faith and love for God....if the JWs couldnt destroy it I dont think much else could...?
Love to all regardless of what rocks your particular boat!
Loz x
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Was You a Bethelite, Elder,CO, DO, GB, Publisher, Missionary,Ministerial Servant or Pioneer class?????
by Scott77 inwhen still in the watchtower, i used to be an assistant ministerial servant.
true, there is no such title but its there unofficially for those one step to being a ministerial servant.
been with it for about three years.
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TruthExplorer..
I'm very happy for you that things have worked out ...after over 30 years of service with a lot of suffering and injustice I came out of there crippled and abandoned. It very nearly killed me ...honestly ...I have given enough of my life to that Org and all they have done is continually reaffirm that they are wrecking families and lives all over the world...I cant possibly believe that's what Jehovah God approves of...thats not the God I know and love...they are giving him such a bad name...
If I value the life that God has given me even a fraction...I have to stay away from that negative and cruel environment.
I wish you well.. watch your back.
Loz x
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Hello..this is my story..
by Lozhasleft ini'm pleased to have found this site...i've browsed a little ...read quite a lot and gasped at some stories, giggled at the one liners and nodded in recognition of others' strong opinions and can relate to a great deal.. i'll try and keep my intro as brief as possible for anyone kind enough to listen.. i got involved with the witnesses in the late 70's in the uk.
i was in my early 20s and had had a love and fascination for the bible since my difficult childhood.
i soon brought my life into 'line' although it took a long time for me to pack up the smoking which didnt go down well in those days when 6 months of study should have been enough and if you hadnt cracked it then it was suggested that you were some kind of loser.... i reared my 4 children in the 'truth' as well as i could but i cant claim that we were a 'strong' family in their terms...just muddled along really..my husband at the time was a very difficult and abusive man and home life wasnt easy for any of us with his anger, jealousy and violence.
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I strongly believe that the WTS fosters bullying in the home and your experience sadly demonstrates this. I'm sure that you never expected to get to where you are today so it's great to hear how you have managed to get through this - although not quite sure how.
MMXIV thankyou for your welcome ...I agree with you ..in the KH women are so denigrated and their opinions so trivialised that it must engender that in the males in the congs which then follows them into their homes...I regret that by joining the sect I have helped to inflict this attitude on my children. Sometimes I'm not sure how either...but here I am and I think I'll give God the credit..
Jeff..I'm sure it must be ...I am currently appalled at these stories which are 'new' for me and you're right they do remind us of our own suffering.
Such a sad reflection on a faith that claims to have 'love amongst themselves'.
Loz x
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Hello..this is my story..
by Lozhasleft ini'm pleased to have found this site...i've browsed a little ...read quite a lot and gasped at some stories, giggled at the one liners and nodded in recognition of others' strong opinions and can relate to a great deal.. i'll try and keep my intro as brief as possible for anyone kind enough to listen.. i got involved with the witnesses in the late 70's in the uk.
i was in my early 20s and had had a love and fascination for the bible since my difficult childhood.
i soon brought my life into 'line' although it took a long time for me to pack up the smoking which didnt go down well in those days when 6 months of study should have been enough and if you hadnt cracked it then it was suggested that you were some kind of loser.... i reared my 4 children in the 'truth' as well as i could but i cant claim that we were a 'strong' family in their terms...just muddled along really..my husband at the time was a very difficult and abusive man and home life wasnt easy for any of us with his anger, jealousy and violence.
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Anadote - yes I know what you're saying...but nowadays and I live a completely different life from the one I led as a witness...and the WTBS instilled enough fear that our 'best' then was never enough...they definitely took away my spiritual joy in serving God ...and whilst I'm certain he'll forgive our imperfections finding my way to 'serve' him acceptably now is still a work in progress for me...it's a relief that He's patient anyway isnt it? I suppose I mean that I dont presume too much but I still love Him though unquestionably and I will leave the decisions with Him.
Chalam Where do you worship?
Palmtree Thank you...I'm so pleased to meet you all.
Loz x
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Hello..this is my story..
by Lozhasleft ini'm pleased to have found this site...i've browsed a little ...read quite a lot and gasped at some stories, giggled at the one liners and nodded in recognition of others' strong opinions and can relate to a great deal.. i'll try and keep my intro as brief as possible for anyone kind enough to listen.. i got involved with the witnesses in the late 70's in the uk.
i was in my early 20s and had had a love and fascination for the bible since my difficult childhood.
i soon brought my life into 'line' although it took a long time for me to pack up the smoking which didnt go down well in those days when 6 months of study should have been enough and if you hadnt cracked it then it was suggested that you were some kind of loser.... i reared my 4 children in the 'truth' as well as i could but i cant claim that we were a 'strong' family in their terms...just muddled along really..my husband at the time was a very difficult and abusive man and home life wasnt easy for any of us with his anger, jealousy and violence.
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Thank you Cantleave Nugget and Mr Flipper...I appreciate the warm welcome and your kind words. Its very good to be here and worth all the anxiety I felt by exposing my story !!
Loz xx
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Hello..this is my story..
by Lozhasleft ini'm pleased to have found this site...i've browsed a little ...read quite a lot and gasped at some stories, giggled at the one liners and nodded in recognition of others' strong opinions and can relate to a great deal.. i'll try and keep my intro as brief as possible for anyone kind enough to listen.. i got involved with the witnesses in the late 70's in the uk.
i was in my early 20s and had had a love and fascination for the bible since my difficult childhood.
i soon brought my life into 'line' although it took a long time for me to pack up the smoking which didnt go down well in those days when 6 months of study should have been enough and if you hadnt cracked it then it was suggested that you were some kind of loser.... i reared my 4 children in the 'truth' as well as i could but i cant claim that we were a 'strong' family in their terms...just muddled along really..my husband at the time was a very difficult and abusive man and home life wasnt easy for any of us with his anger, jealousy and violence.
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Hi Snowbird...could you elaborate? what did you do when you experienced this visit of the Holy Spirit?
Sounds to me like you're doing good.
Loz
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Hello..this is my story..
by Lozhasleft ini'm pleased to have found this site...i've browsed a little ...read quite a lot and gasped at some stories, giggled at the one liners and nodded in recognition of others' strong opinions and can relate to a great deal.. i'll try and keep my intro as brief as possible for anyone kind enough to listen.. i got involved with the witnesses in the late 70's in the uk.
i was in my early 20s and had had a love and fascination for the bible since my difficult childhood.
i soon brought my life into 'line' although it took a long time for me to pack up the smoking which didnt go down well in those days when 6 months of study should have been enough and if you hadnt cracked it then it was suggested that you were some kind of loser.... i reared my 4 children in the 'truth' as well as i could but i cant claim that we were a 'strong' family in their terms...just muddled along really..my husband at the time was a very difficult and abusive man and home life wasnt easy for any of us with his anger, jealousy and violence.
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Hello there Heaven - well, when I met my husband I fell in love with him as the person he was, he has strong political opinions, he's an avid football fan, he's intellectual and intelligent and very well read, he makes me laugh even when things are difficult, he loves and cares for his family deeply and does the same with those of mine that allow for it, he has an honesty, integrity and loyalty that I never found in anyone to such an extent certainly not in the KH, he is kind and generous and forgiving, he adores me and protects me as if I'm precious, something I've never known in all my life. I absolutely adore him back and we have something so special that I feel as if I've won a happiness prize. I actually often think he was sent by God because he has enabled and helped me to grow and recover and heal from my sorrows. I will wait and see about that. His atheism is mostly based on his disgust at religions and their oppression, and how can I argue with that?
I am uncertain that I will actually gain my 'place' in heaven, based on my failings in recent times, it is after all only ever a 'hope' so am leaving that decision in God's hands. He's the only one who gets to choose anyway and I trust that he will choose wisely in terms of the kingdom. For years I never expected to be able to take my loved ones with me in any case so it was something I then came to terms with and trusted God implicitly to care for their needs in whatever way things turn out. I suppose I feel that since 'all authority has been given to Jesus' it's not really my problem. I try to live my life the best I can whilst being true to myself and my love for God and I attempt to be kind and caring with people I come into contact with every day.
I always think and often said when I was in the 'truth' (to the disapproval of the elders I might add !) ...
....ITS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS...!!
Loz