i've been lurking for quite a while but i finally gave in to my "apostate" heart and joined!
i'm so excited!.
Hi Crisis, I'm also new. I also have those questions about Holy Spirit. I'm an elders son and was appointed an MS. I knew then that the spirit had nothing to do with my appointment because I was up to no good. It also had nothing to do with my disontinued use as an MS. I too lurked here for a while and learned more about the bible in a few months than in an entire lifetime as a JW.
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when still in the watchtower, i used to be an assistant ministerial servant.
true, there is no such title but its there unofficially for those one step to being a ministerial servant.
been with it for about three years.
I was baptized at 15. Was an MS at 18-21. Was removed after I decided the bar was more interesting than the KH.
saw this in the chicago tribune today, thought some of you might enjoy it.. put a lot of those jw "worldy people".
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/ct-news-hageman-fire-20100327,0,5478590.story.
chicagotribune.comaurora house fire restores faith in peopleit took a house fire to make reporter william hageman see the good in peopleby william hageman, tribune reporter.
The WTS only helps in disaster areas when they know they will get the proper amount of puplicity. There are probably several jobless needy ones in each and every KH in the U.S. and elsewhere, but instead of investing some of their billions in their own they throw it on the local JW's to care for the needy. Sickening!
at a young age i remember watching tv and commenting why is the red cross always helping people and we don't.
the second big one is if the witnesses only started up in 1890 - 1900 did jehovah not have anyone else doing the preaching work?.
as a child i don't think we think about theological problems so what tipped you off?
@Quillsky- It felt good too. The single brother and myself sat with this man for about an hour in the room at the hotel that he wanted to stay in (a little scary but that is what he wanted). We apologized for the way that our conductor had spoken to him. The big guy said he was happy that we didn't just give him cash and send him on the bus.
Then he asked me if all the people in our church acted like conductor. I had to honestly tell him yes, most. Then he asked me a question I'll never forget. "Why do you stay? You seem better than that." This conversation changed my life forever. I decided that I needed to make the truth my own. Not according to FDS, but according to any and all scripture and commentary I could get my hands on.
After making it clear to myself that I never had the truth I decided to hit the evil internet to really dig into the shady hypocracy of the FDS. What an eye opening experience!
The night of that study my wife and I discussed all the little things that bugged us, but she said she would wait on the "slave." After the Memorial a couple of days age I told her everything that I've learned. She hasn't been able to process it all yet, but to my relief she didn't brush it all aside she wants to know what I found.
I wish I could see the big guy again and thank him. I'm a 4th gen JW. I have a huge close knit family and extended family all in the "truth". I'm not sure how this is going to go, but it is something that I can't ignore anymore.
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at a young age i remember watching tv and commenting why is the red cross always helping people and we don't.
the second big one is if the witnesses only started up in 1890 - 1900 did jehovah not have anyone else doing the preaching work?.
as a child i don't think we think about theological problems so what tipped you off?
A few years ago when we still had the bookstudy in a small group at the K.H. a man that stood about 6ft. 6in. weighing about 350lbs. walked in to the hall. Upon noticing him I got up and walked to the back and directed him to the foyer so that we could talk (really I wanted to get him far enough away from my wife and kids just in case he was up to no good). He was dressed in ripped up clothing, was smelly, and dirty. I asked if I could help him. He said that he could use a donation from our "church" so that he could get some clean clothes and a hotel room. I told him that our organization did not have a program to care for those in need. As the words were coming out of my mouth I felt sheepish. He said that he had received money from many other churches over the years when he asked. I apologized to him and said that I would ask those in attendence at the study if anyone could help, as it was just ending. I went into the main hall to let my wife know where I had been. When I went back to the foyer the conductor was telling this man that this was no a charity organization and that he would not be given any money and that he would have to leave. I hadn't even had a chance to ask anyone about money yet when I walked up on this conversation. I asked another couple if they could take my wife and kids home, they said yes. So I told this man to go to my car and I would take him to get something to eat buy some clothes and get a hotel for two nights, but that was all I could afford. The conductor started to object. I told him to mind his own business, Jesus would do it too. As we were leaving a single brother jumped in the car and said he wated to split the cost with me. We bought two pants shirt combo,fed him, and put him up. The conversations with the big man, the single brother, my wife, and the coductor will have to wait for another time.
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i've read some old posts and they don't really fit my situation.. my wife just told me she wants a divorce and that's it after nearly 20 years., she doesn't want to try to work on it.. other posts talk about friends and family.
i have no family and no friends (due to a lot of traveling).. i went back to my hometown a year ago (after many years away) and even then old friends treated me as a stranger, like they've moved on.. i've had a lot of emotional / mental problems, basically a breakdown so have found it impossible to fulfill my role as a husband for many years, emotionally and physically and she said she's had enough, although she's never talked about it before.. she went out and had an unplanned one-night-stand.
i forgive me but she says she doesn't love me anymore.. we both find it very difficult to communicate our feelings.
Having gone through a divorce with a child attached. It appears that at this point you should talk to an attorney and get some legal advice to protect your assets and your visitation. Get some advice from the attorney so that when the papers do come you are ready to take required actions and not be too emotionally caught offguard to act. She probably already has an attorney and /or the support of a new boyfriend to help her along quicker so don't get caught with your pants down.
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just got back from memorial.
only went so that i could say to my parents that i had gone and to remind myself why i left.. oh my word!!!
it was sooooo painful.. got there a bit late - it was a couple of minutes into the talk.
I turned left out of the parking lot after they made a special announcement to turn right, and I got an orange cone flashlight waved at me. I'll be invited into the B-School on Sunday for council.
brothers and sisters.
please take your seats.
the 2010 district convention of jehovahs witnesses is about to begin.
I could never get in line fast enough to get one of those dry chicken sandwiches, so I had to get a hogey on soggy bread or a gas producing bean burrito with warm shasta and a pudding.
i'm looking for a suggestion(s).
i placed the bible teach book with a neighbor a couple of years back.
in the meantime i went on a personal study holiday and found many things about the wts that i never heard of.
Thanks Leaving and Mind
I'll be checking my mail via phone. I gotta go for now. It's not going to be that easy. He's a good/close neighbor. He hangs out with my JW mother in law in the back yard and chit chats. Their older people with nothing but time to talk. He'll say something to her.
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i'm looking for a suggestion(s).
i placed the bible teach book with a neighbor a couple of years back.
in the meantime i went on a personal study holiday and found many things about the wts that i never heard of.
Hi
I'm new here, but have been looking for a while. I'm looking for a suggestion(s). I placed the Bible Teach Book with a neighbor a couple of years back. In the meantime I went on a personal study holiday and found many things about the WTS that I never heard of. My kids are getting old enough to be taught and I wanted to confirm my beliefs. Now I can't teach them what my parents taught me. No one in my family knows what I have found out about the WTS. Yesterday my neighbor comes up to me with the Memorial invite from his door. I didn't put it there by the way. He says "hey I'd like to go to this. What time does it start?" I only spoke briefly with him about the book I placed before I "took a break" and now there is so much that I don't believe that I don't want to get him started on anything. What should I tell him?
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