As a single guy.....THIS is a great thread LOL
daringhart13
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What I Will Teach My Grandson About Women
by metatron in[warning: i will make no attempt to be politically correct in this missive].
son, i understand that your mother has given you "the talk" - about the facts of life and it's important that you know about these things now that you are becoming a man.. i appreciate your mother and all the sacrifices she has made to keep you healthy and out-of-trouble so far.
however, there's just one more thing we need to talk about - and that is that you need to know some things about women.
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Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"
by daringhart13 ini had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.
such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.
a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.
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daringhart13
Quandry,
I've witnessed the same thing in person. MASSIVE changes to doctrine.... and I would look around to see people's faces....from the stage no less since I was the WT Conductor for 8 years......... and NOTHING........ no one even noticed!!!
Even elders I thought were intellectual.....nothing. Tuned out.
If the District Convention isn't one gigantic waste of time, I don't know what is..... its just social time.....NO ONE learns anything.
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Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"
by daringhart13 ini had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.
such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.
a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.
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daringhart13
Fantastic thread....thanks for sharing your stories...
I read these and I just sit here with my mouth open...its so damn mind numbing. They are complete zombies. They know NOTHING.
wilyoman.................I could tell similar stories..... completely clueless human beings putting their children through hell.
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Br. Loesch - great tribulation, king of the north, generation overlap, new scrolls and more...
by Bonnie_Clyde injust got this email...... .
subject: zone report germany date: 5/17/11 2:02:57 am.
we thought we would share one of our interesting experiences with you.
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daringhart13
Don't be logical depavoux......LOL LOL
I used to make a joke about why I don't just go into a mall or public place and gun everyone down screaming "you can thank me later".....because, you know, that ensures them a resurrection.
When you start lying, it starts a trail of total absurdity.....
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Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"
by daringhart13 ini had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.
such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.
a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.
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daringhart13
TD,
I had to give a Local Needs talk on apostasy after a DFing of a couple in our congregation in 1995 who KNEW it was all wrong. They never returned. They were smart.....
I asked this same elder on the phone how the Society was planning their rescue efforts. He said "huh?" ....I said ".....well I'm sure they are leaving the 99 sheep to chase the one.......you know, the one who KNEW this "light" was wrong a decade ago and left......now that they have proven they were right.....you're going to go get them all back, right??"
He says ".......I have to let Jehovah take care of that."
Then I said "....well even worldly publications print retractions when in error........is the WT planning that?"
Stone silence.
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Thanks for your support JWN!!! Dad dies monday, JW family goes to convention on thursday
by Coffee House Girl incoffee shop guy directed me to his thread...thank you so much everyone for your thoughts of support, it means a lot to have people who understand and show genuine sympathy.
here's my experience so far.... my father dies monday night & my brother (nonjw) calls me to come home, when i arrive my father is still sitting on the couch- all the jw family is sitting in a semi-circle around him, my non jw brother is standing in the next room.
no one is crying, no one is talking.
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daringhart13
I'm so sorry Coffee House Girl..... I hope you and your brother can find some peace.
I'm just speechless about these people anymore..... they have NO love whatsoever (1 Cor. 13:1-8)
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Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"
by daringhart13 ini had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.
such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.
a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.
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daringhart13
Thanks folks....I'm just still completely floored. He had NO CLUE what I was talking about.....I was reeling off scripture after scripture and he would sit there....he clearly had no grasp of his own Bible.
I agree with the posts above..... I'm trying to wrap my mind and heart around how much I cared, how much studying I did....only to find out the mass majority do NOTHING.....including fellow elders....which I witnessed all the time. They literally couldn't quote 5 scriptures.
Its like handing your child or wife over to a doctor that has never read a medical manual and saying ......"...sure, feel free to operate on her"
He also went on to say that JW's have "never said we are the only ones that will be saved"
I just started laughing. I couldn't help it..........I just busted out full on laughing at him. I said "why are you going in field service then??"
For those that put their heart and soul into this religion.....that were passionately loyal........ is it not even more difficult to realize that all of your efforts were wasted on completely ignorant, mind numbing people who could give a rat's ass????????
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Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"
by daringhart13 ini had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.
such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.
a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.
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daringhart13
I had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.
When I mentioned Generations/Overlapping.......he had NO CLUE WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT
Such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them. A high stature elder in their organization....and he had NO CLUE there was another change....
How the hell does this happen?
Anyone else with similar experiences?
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Whats changed since you were baptized????
by karter ini was baptized in 1986.. 2 generation changes..
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daringhart13
Baptized 5/25/85
What has changed???
Generations....
Blood Fractions
The Song Book
Bookstudies are gone
The Revelation Climax Book....several times over
The King of the North and the King of the South
Oral Sex
Pioneering hours
Allowing Field Service time in 15 minute increments (how funny is that??)
Public Talks are shorter
The Theocratic School format/Theo School Book
Divorce......there are so many now....that its not shocking anymore...you just marry another JW and carry on LOL
But the one that had a devastating effect on me???? ---- They took away the cheese danish. I'm still emotionally scarred.
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JW's who remain in the organisation but try to reform it - pissing against the wind
by jambon1 ini came across a website that presents decent argumentation against three main areas of jw doctrine.. http://jwreform.org/index.html.
who do these people think they are?
do they really believe that the wts will sit up and take notice of their objections?
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daringhart13
"What is crooked cannot be straightened and what is lacking cannot be counted." - Eccl. 1:15
But nevermind....that's just the Bible....