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My mother ignored the elders and I was a football star for many years. Then I grew up to become an elder.
I tried to keep my only son out of sports, but we divorced and his mother let him have a normal life.....I am so indebted to her for that.....
Then I started studying hard.....realized I was in a cult. Now it all makes me physically ill too.........heartbreaking.
my oldest child was barely 4 months old and not an easy baby.
she cried all the time....and getting her to sleep during the day was a pain.....especially in a facility that was 80 degrees with a/c.
on sunday afternoon of the dc....knowing we had a two hour drive home (she also didn't sleep in the car well).....i went to an "off limits" area with her.
Yes. My favorite memory after attending every District Convention, speaking at them, working in administration, etc since 1969.....was my very last one.........when I walked out, looked back and said out loud..."never again"
I'd have to say the 2008 convention. It was the first one in a long time I was nothing but a lowly publisher.......I got to sit in the audience. What an eye opener.
on average, how many highly trained bible students would you estimate existed in your kingdom hall?
to define this further, i am thinking of men or women who studied more than watchtower literature, spent time in libraries to dig deeper than most shallow minded drones.. how can someone be a baptized jw for forty five years and be stupid regarding "the trintiy, hell fire, first century culture, church father's teachings, rapture, heaven, reasons for defending the reliability of bible texts."?
could the watering down, diluted teachings be the problem with "new-gen's" impotent bible understanding or lack of understanding?.
You're right Londo........I was FOREVER stunned at how no one.....including my own family, had ever read the Bible.
I served with 40 different elders............2 of them had read the Bible.
Now imagine you hand your kid over to a surgeon who hasn't read a medical text..............yeah, but they claim spirituality is more important. Never mind that the chief surgeons have never read the book.
Its so absurd its surreal.
on average, how many highly trained bible students would you estimate existed in your kingdom hall?
to define this further, i am thinking of men or women who studied more than watchtower literature, spent time in libraries to dig deeper than most shallow minded drones.. how can someone be a baptized jw for forty five years and be stupid regarding "the trintiy, hell fire, first century culture, church father's teachings, rapture, heaven, reasons for defending the reliability of bible texts."?
could the watering down, diluted teachings be the problem with "new-gen's" impotent bible understanding or lack of understanding?.
What JWFACTS said above mirrors my experience and feelings.
The most frustrating part of the entire JW experience is how incredibly dumb and ignorant they all are. You can't reason with the, because they know almost nothing.
The greater question for this thread would be "how many in each congregation have actually read the Bible?" --- I venture to say maybe 1-2 out of 150 publishers in each congregation. No, I'm not kidding.
Now imagine that: you are considered a pilot because your peers call you one....... however, you've never flown an airplane, read a manual or been to flight school............
.................who wants to get on that plane???
page 28, paragraph 13:.
"an improper romantic relationship could develop within the congregation.
daniel and his wife, sarah, were regular pioneers.
LOL LOL
Now that is some funny, funny stuff.They constantly berate the elders for underperforming wives.....and the elders themselves for not doing enough (just sit in on an elders meeting during the CO Visit)...........now they are berating them for doing too much and his wife becomes a whore.
I love it man.
I really wish someone would do a real world documentary on this sick ass cult.
apparently, the society knows exactly when the great tribulation is going to break out, but they're only letting the public know through subliminal messages in their images.
here's a new chain letter that's being passed around between witnesses:.
(daniel 2:34, 35, 44, 45).
Odd..........the stone looks to have gone backwards between 2004 (where its hitting the statue) and 2012 (where its still imminent)
But don't look at that............look at the puppet......over here kids, look at the puppet.
LOL..........how did any of us spend any of our lives in this cult?
sooo i was a ministerial servant (omg a ministerial servant on this site!?
you apostate!!!
) yea yea i just wanted to see what other people think and whatever, coz i had a few questions myself, (butttt its not like i was about to start throwing them with rocks and stuff, they arent that bad).
I have some advice.
RUN
Privileges? Privileges?
Do you see what they've done to your mind??
you hear the lyrics and something in your exjw mind goes "hmmmm".
stereophonics - mr writer.
but you'd like to stone me.
Innocent by Fuel.......every single time ........"all those colors, long since faded"..... all those damn pics of paradise....."all our smiles are confiscated".......... "we'd be bought and sold"....on and on......LOVE it.
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Master of Disaster by Seether ....every single word lands true......deep, dark and sick. I love it........
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remember that old movie, the adventures of robin hood with erroll flynn?.
there is a scene where robin wants to cross a creek by walking across a log used as a bridge.
friar tuck is determined to stop him.. the are both standing on the log over the creek opposing each other with not-all-too-friendly banter.. somebody is going to end up in the water!.
Thanks Terry....good stuff.....
But I have ONE point: They better turn and burn or eat my fist.
Works every time.
i was at the meeting today, and 2 sisters answered up basicaly saying that the elders did nothing whilst these people were being persecuted within the congregation.. i knew of the one sister years ago that was there- she stopped going for a while because of this... my eyes are slowly being opened esp now with this paedophile/s in australia...
That is epic....I love hearing this story.....I hope those sisters keep speaking up.....
Did they drag her intot he B school after the meeting?? LOL
