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  Another visit from the elders

  by jonno12225 in

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  2. friends

  so i have another visit from the elder this week.

  this time they want to speak with my wife, still a believer and myself.

  i think they want to know my position about my children attending the meetings and some other things.. while preparing myself for it i though of a challenge for the elders and my wife.

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  daringhart13

  What do I think?

  I think you're wasting your time and causing yourself undue stress.

  Why do you even let them in the door? You're in control......let me repeat that.....YOU are in control.

  Tell them 'no' or better yet..... completely ignore them
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  Why WTBTS Disfellowshipping Works...

  by AGuest in

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  2. friends

  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  i just wanted to share with you, briefly, what i have come to understand as to why disfellowshipping by the wtbts works... why it can continue being fomented as it is.

  i realize there are pages and pages of studies regarding cults and cult mindsets, etc., but i am not going to inundate you with such but rather try to keep this simple.

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  daringhart13

  LOL

  Hey AGuest......have you ever served as a chairman of a judicial committee? Were you an elder at all?
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  What Was Your "Status" Within The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  were you a sought after associate?.

  were you often invisible?.

  did other witnesses view you as "exemplary"?.

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  daringhart13

  I love these threads. Really makes it personal.

  My story:

  Youngest elder in the circuit at 27; I'm now 45. My last meeting was January 2009. Yes.....I was that 'hot shot' elder....the talented public speaker that made people cry and hug one another. I really cared. I love people and always fight for the underdog. I served as an elder for 11 years...and basically ran our congregation. I was the 'go to' guy all the teenager loved and respected. I had the 'privilege' of being used on District and Circuit talks....as well as an instructor at KM School for the elders.

  Then hard times hit. My wife was bi-polar and basically....a whore. She kept sinning and sinning while everyone supported my son and I. Then it ran out........I stopped serving, every hall tried to get me to move into their KH for my return to elderhood. I went to two more congregation and was disgusted by everything. How unstudied the elders were.......how unkind. How most of them were drunks, along with their wives.....and how slander runs rampant.

  So much more to tell. But now, I tell people I'm a very proud apostate. Some people cry....others look horrified.

  I'm now divorced, a bachelor, my son isn't a JW........ and I can say with absolute honesty....I have never been happier in my life.
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  Has disproving the "Truth" become an obsession for you at times?

  by Pyramid Scheme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was curious if anyone else has gone through a similar experience.. when i became inactive 4 years ago, i went through a period of not being able to focus on just about anything, other than doing tremendous amounts of research to prove to myself what my beliefs were, and to clearly identify my issues with the jw organization.

  i was mad - and i was on a mission to build the ultimate case against the wt.

  however, having read the fine advice on here, i backed off with my family, since it would have just gotten ugly.. i avoided posting on here for years, and had cut down my research and put it on the back burner.. however, i still felt a need to "witness" to my family and to have an open discussion with my wife.

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  Moshe,

  That was genius!!!!!
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  I miss the in depth topics about WTS false teachings....

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are we bored with the wts now?

  have we heard it all already?.

  or is the wts just not printing "deep" articles anymore?

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  daringhart13

  ^^^ I agree.

  Furthermore,....the WT always struggles when there isn't some terrible disaster or tragic war to feed off of...... without a third world war, they are lost......
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  How Can I Kindly Kick Weak And Unproductive Publishers Out Of My Kingdom Hall?

  by AuntConnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  unproductive kingdom proclaimers won't leave my kingdom hall, how do i rid our hall of these vultures or turkeys?.

  "you can't fly like the eagles if you hang out with turkeys".

  after visiting your site, i decided to allow one of the spiritual weak individuals into my car group, it was not easy but you have made valid points i find very self condemning.

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  daringhart13

  You sound like the BOE's following every CO visit where he blasted us for low hour publishers.
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  I miss the in depth topics about WTS false teachings....

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are we bored with the wts now?

  have we heard it all already?.

  or is the wts just not printing "deep" articles anymore?

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  daringhart13

  Hey Walls,

  Its because no one pays attention at meetings or studies anyway........they know it. 9/10 JW's couldn't tell you the basics about the religion.....they just know which days to come to the Kingdom Hall.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Divorce

  by Eustace in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i really hate divorce.

  it was my parents getting divorced that helped messed up my childhood.. part of why i came to conclude the jehovah's witnesses don't have the "spiritual paradise" they claim to is how many of their marriages end up in divorce.my parents i could dismiss as an exception to a general rule, but i could never understand how often it seemed to keep happening to lots of different people when the watchtower society teaches that divorce is wrong except in case of adultery.. but what really brought things home for me was this study by the pewforum on religion survey showing that even though jehovah's witness are less likely to be married than the general population, they're more likely to be divorced or separated.. http://religions.pewforum.org/.

  they really have a nerve telling people in the jehovah's witnesses religion that they shouldn't have sex outside of marriage when they've done so little to protect jws who get married, and their children, from the extreme stress and conflict of divorce.. it's really messed up.. heck, even the catholics they're are always dumping on have a lower divorce/separation rate than the jws.. jw divorced/separated = 14%.

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  daringhart13

  You need look no further that JW's are a cult than their marriages.

  Don't forget, the elders are given authority to insert themselves in your marriage. I will never forget one of my polarizing moments. I believe it was 2008, at Kingdom Ministry School with the elders........sitting in the audience with elders that had gotten involved in my marriage, (including meeting with my wife alone in his bedroom), ......they then began to explain their new 'porn doctrine'.......if a servant was caught watching it....the elders were to meet with him AND his wife in the B school and see how the wife felt about him watching porn. They would then decide whether to delete him or not.

  I couldn't believe my ears.

  I closed my Flock Book and decided it was over.

  When I look back, its a minor miracle that I didn't drag a few of my fellow elders outside the KH and beat the living s**t out of them.
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  BoE Facebook Accounts

  by jonno12225 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have some interesting info for you guys.

  it seems my congregation boe has its own facebook account.

  its deactivated but when issues on facebook arise they activate it to check out whats happeneing.. does something similar happen in other kingdom halls?.

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  daringhart13

  Well for the elders I served with.......having a Facebook account makes sense. They could switch over from watching porn, to spying on publishers.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Why is it that your critics are 100% honorably

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  2. scandals

  most vocal internet critics of watchtower corp are.

  bethel elders.

  elders.

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  daringhart13

  LOL

  I just found out a married guy that we 'privately reproved' for getting a blow job in a hot tub from another guys wife....a 'sister'......was just appointed as an MS.

  They are down to bottom of the barrel when it comes to appointing men. The good ones have left.