I admire your tenacity....your will to even attempt communicating with them.
I just can't get the emotions to speak to people who choose to be ignorant, have never read their own Bible or studied their own literature.
is it just me or are we seeing more and more of these guys?.
i have been having some extraordinary conversations with these folks lately and they are actually holding lengthy dialogues with me, one who has become "dangerous", is "poisonous", a "slanderer", etc.
according to wt.. here is one exchange from yesterday and today with a jw apologist who calls himself "warriorprince101010" who decided to call me the dreaded "a" word on one of my videos, stating that i was a "bitter apostate":.
I admire your tenacity....your will to even attempt communicating with them.
I just can't get the emotions to speak to people who choose to be ignorant, have never read their own Bible or studied their own literature.
i've been journaling a lot the past couple of years....it was recommended to me by a therapist when my anger was boiling over.. so recently i decided to start an exercise: what would you tell them if they would listen?.
i've started listing my top 10 and it's interesting......i'm over all of the doctrinal insanity.....i'm forever indebted to the more scholarly among us that have put so much effort into research, writing, etc.!!!.
mine all focused on more 'human' subjects....emotions, pain, etc.
OUTSTANDING!!!!!
Thank you for each response......I'm collecting my thoughts on this subject and each of you gave me new things to think about.
I want to keep this thread alive and really consider everyone's thoughts....
i've been journaling a lot the past couple of years....it was recommended to me by a therapist when my anger was boiling over.. so recently i decided to start an exercise: what would you tell them if they would listen?.
i've started listing my top 10 and it's interesting......i'm over all of the doctrinal insanity.....i'm forever indebted to the more scholarly among us that have put so much effort into research, writing, etc.!!!.
mine all focused on more 'human' subjects....emotions, pain, etc.
I've been journaling a lot the past couple of years....it was recommended to me by a therapist when my anger was boiling over.
So recently I decided to start an exercise: what would you tell them if they would listen?
I've started listing my top 10 and it's interesting......I'm over all of the doctrinal insanity.....I'm forever indebted to the more scholarly among us that have put so much effort into research, writing, etc.!!!
Mine all focused on more 'human' subjects....emotions, pain, etc. The Bible passages flood into my mind on each one......just more proof of the hypocrisy of this insane cult.
But I'm curious......what would YOU share with someone....someone that had doubts, was skeptical or just in PAIN??
we have all read the most important books by ray franz and half a dozen of the other great books by various authors.....but does anyone know if there is a comprehensive book anywhere on how to escape the cult?.
We have all read the most important books by Ray Franz and half a dozen of the other great books by various authors.....but does anyone know if there is a comprehensive book anywhere on how to escape the cult?
very few people actually know this but the watchtower dvd faith in action is actually a tribute to freemasonry.
this dvd presents illustrations of several famous freemasons such as john coustos (a portuguese grand master from lisbon circa 1740).
the dvd actually presents two illustrations of coustos being tortured by the clergy while the anonymous narrator denounces historic abuse from the clergy.
I don't think the connectin to Freemasons is a moot point......I think its worth looking at. In the very least, they stole a great deal of their 'culture' from freemasonry......right down to calling each other "brothers" and "Jehovah"......its all connected to Freemasonry .......
Are they still involved? What lever were they involved? I don't know the answers......but they most certainly 'dabbled' in it at one point.....
Considering a JW child can't be involved in student council......I'd say their connection to Freemasonry will always deserve to be called out.....
two that come to mind are.
my generation and.
won't get fooled again.
i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.
as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?
surely education should come first.
Me.
And I'm seething with resentment over it.
At 45 (child of the 80's)........our company just restructred and let some of us go with a severence. Here I go again.......the "no degree" conversation
I'm never going to understand this.
You don't owe them anything. Tell them you're 'down' and that you need some time alone.
A couple of weeks later......and they will all have forgotten you....sure, you might get a call or text in a month or better....just don't answer.
YOU'RE IN CONTROL!!
why did jehovah have to protect the enterence to eden with a flaming sword after kicking adam and eve out when all one had to do to get back in was to hop over the fence further up the road?.
one of the bible's mysteries..
Its holds about as much weight as the "doctrine" of Universal Sovereignty .......you know...the one where God sits back and watches women raped, people struggle with handicaps, elementary schools shot up, war crimes, child abuse, famine, humans ravaged by cancer.......over and over and over and over and over and..........for thousands of years.
All because some jackwagon bully mocked him. You know...the one he created perfectly that somehow developed envy? Instead of wiping him out and saving thousands of years of unexplainable pain.......he's allowing it down to this moment...........because His 'name' is more important than keeping his children from harm.
Eden??? EDEN??
the newbies are pooring in....... curious.......can any of you new folks confirm the sentiment of the publishers regarding the new light that the governing body is the faithful and discreet slave?
has anyone even noticed??
what's the word on the street?.
This line alone is so fantastic.....so wrought with insanity, ....and yet, years of brainwashing, not one of them will notice that an "absolute fact" has been stated with ZERO support or proof:
"Jesus was referring, not to an individual, but to a composite "slave"--- a group working together as one body"
He was? Did anyone ask him? Did he call someone on earth and tell them this?
A crazy...CRAZY proof of how powerful a cult can be.....