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  warped logic from the memorial talk

  by why144000 in

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  speaker said we should not partake because when jesus arrives he will take the remnat to heaven and the memorial will be no more.

  just as we will not partake then (because the memorial will not exist) it is only logical that we will not partake now.

  warped logic at its finest!.

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  daringhart13

  Just returned from going with my elderly mother.

  Unbelievable. I don't know if I'm more shocked that I didn't lose it and start screaming......or that I seemed to be totally ambivalent.

  I just looked around as they discussed how the Memorial will go away when the last person goes to heaven.........

  Wait for it...........wait for it.........wait for it...............nope, no scripture. Just a bold assertion.

  I couldn't even muster up indignation.........I just sat there numb looking at all these poor children and one woman in a wheel chair......just sucking it all in............without nary a protest.

  My god its all so bizarre.

  I wanted to yell out: "Soylent Green!!!!"
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  Notes from 2013 Memorial talk: Appreciate What Christ Has Done for You

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  took one for the team tonight, and went along to the memorial.

  my first time in a kingdom hall for just over a month.

  it was as expected, dry, boring and extremely uninteresting.

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  daringhart13

  I just returned....went with my mother (she is older and I want to see her happy)

  TWO HOPES!

  First meeting I've been to in years.......imagine my surprise when I looked around and everyone was staring off into LaLa Land.....

  These people aren't even listening
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  JW Apologists on YouTube and the Net becoming bolder

  by RayPublisher in

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  2. beliefs

  is it just me or are we seeing more and more of these guys?.

  i have been having some extraordinary conversations with these folks lately and they are actually holding lengthy dialogues with me, one who has become "dangerous", is "poisonous", a "slanderer", etc.

  according to wt.. here is one exchange from yesterday and today with a jw apologist who calls himself "warriorprince101010" who decided to call me the dreaded "a" word on one of my videos, stating that i was a "bitter apostate":.

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  daringhart13

  I admire your tenacity....your will to even attempt communicating with them.

  I just can't get the emotions to speak to people who choose to be ignorant, have never read their own Bible or studied their own literature.
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  Need Help: What Would You Try to Tell Current JW's?

  by daringhart13 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been journaling a lot the past couple of years....it was recommended to me by a therapist when my anger was boiling over.. so recently i decided to start an exercise: what would you tell them if they would listen?.

  i've started listing my top 10 and it's interesting......i'm over all of the doctrinal insanity.....i'm forever indebted to the more scholarly among us that have put so much effort into research, writing, etc.!!!.

  mine all focused on more 'human' subjects....emotions, pain, etc.

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  daringhart13

  OUTSTANDING!!!!!

  Thank you for each response......I'm collecting my thoughts on this subject and each of you gave me new things to think about.

  I want to keep this thread alive and really consider everyone's thoughts....
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  Need Help: What Would You Try to Tell Current JW's?

  by daringhart13 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been journaling a lot the past couple of years....it was recommended to me by a therapist when my anger was boiling over.. so recently i decided to start an exercise: what would you tell them if they would listen?.

  i've started listing my top 10 and it's interesting......i'm over all of the doctrinal insanity.....i'm forever indebted to the more scholarly among us that have put so much effort into research, writing, etc.!!!.

  mine all focused on more 'human' subjects....emotions, pain, etc.

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  daringhart13

  I've been journaling a lot the past couple of years....it was recommended to me by a therapist when my anger was boiling over.

  So recently I decided to start an exercise: what would you tell them if they would listen?

  I've started listing my top 10 and it's interesting......I'm over all of the doctrinal insanity.....I'm forever indebted to the more scholarly among us that have put so much effort into research, writing, etc.!!!

  Mine all focused on more 'human' subjects....emotions, pain, etc. The Bible passages flood into my mind on each one......just more proof of the hypocrisy of this insane cult.

  But I'm curious......what would YOU share with someone....someone that had doubts, was skeptical or just in PAIN??
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  Does Anyone Know: A book for HOW to escape JW's?

  by daringhart13 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we have all read the most important books by ray franz and half a dozen of the other great books by various authors.....but does anyone know if there is a comprehensive book anywhere on how to escape the cult?.

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  daringhart13

  We have all read the most important books by Ray Franz and half a dozen of the other great books by various authors.....but does anyone know if there is a comprehensive book anywhere on how to escape the cult?
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  Faith In Action DVD... A tribute to Freemasons

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  very few people actually know this but the watchtower dvd faith in action is actually a tribute to freemasonry.

  this dvd presents illustrations of several famous freemasons such as john coustos (a portuguese grand master from lisbon circa 1740).

  the dvd actually presents two illustrations of coustos being tortured by the clergy while the anonymous narrator denounces historic abuse from the clergy.

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  daringhart13

  I don't think the connectin to Freemasons is a moot point......I think its worth looking at. In the very least, they stole a great deal of their 'culture' from freemasonry......right down to calling each other "brothers" and "Jehovah"......its all connected to Freemasonry .......

  Are they still involved? What lever were they involved? I don't know the answers......but they most certainly 'dabbled' in it at one point.....

  Considering a JW child can't be involved in student council......I'd say their connection to Freemasonry will always deserve to be called out.....
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  Who songs that remind me of the jehovahs witnesses

  by hoser in

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  two that come to mind are.

  my generation and.

  won't get fooled again.

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  daringhart13

  Seether......Master of Disaster

  Listen to the lyrics. I love it.
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  How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. friends

  i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.

  as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?

  surely education should come first.

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  daringhart13

  Me.

  And I'm seething with resentment over it.

  At 45 (child of the 80's)........our company just restructred and let some of us go with a severence. Here I go again.......the "no degree" conversation
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  worn out ministerial servant!

  by El_Guapo in

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  daringhart13

  I'm never going to understand this.

  You don't owe them anything. Tell them you're 'down' and that you need some time alone.

  A couple of weeks later......and they will all have forgotten you....sure, you might get a call or text in a month or better....just don't answer.

  YOU'RE IN CONTROL!!