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  HELP! Good Friend just told she is being disfellowshipped!!

  by jdhf in

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  hey... a good friend of mine was visited by 2 elders this evening..and after being treated like something you wouldn't want on your shoe...told her that her parents can no longer have anything to do with her 9 year old boy.

  he is not baptized.. her dad is an elder and mum a long standing publisher...can they really insist that the grandparents ignore the child??

  they babysit for him when she's at work...she would have to leave her job, and she lives in their house too..although they live elsewhere...her dad is researching this as he is obviously curious as to whether this is scriptural.

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  I don't understand....I NEVER understand......why did she agree to meet with them?????
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  ..Which has Caused You the Most Grief in Your Life..The Outside World or Watchtower World?..

  by OUTLAW in

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  according to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .

  the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .

  which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...

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  Thanks NewChapter,

  I'm not going to lie or mislead and say I've been an angel and 'moral' the entire time......I haven't. But I seem to just run through women..... without anything taking root.

  I appreciate you sharing....I'm trying to explore how much of my issue is me and how much of it is the influence of JWs and my bad experiences.... always good to hear how others have adjusted.
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  ..Which has Caused You the Most Grief in Your Life..The Outside World or Watchtower World?..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. jw
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  according to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .

  the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .

  which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...

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  My experience has been similar to NewChapter.

  I was divorced in 2004, still a 'bigshot' elder....and now suddenly single in my 30's. It was terrible. It was like being red meat in a lion's cage. "Sisters" (yeah right) came out of the wood work; as young as 24....."get the elder".....its was sick...and to be honest, I think it really damaged me....

  I have a file of "sisters" emails, texts, pics etc........sent to me with sex talk, pictures of boobs, etc. Many of them MARRIED.

  My dating pool expanded dramatically and I came to realize there might actually be a nice girl out there..... but I'm still single and have commitment issues..... most of it from my time as an elder dealing with the many miserable marriages with 'the happiest people on earth' ......

  NewChapter.....always curious.......how did you get back out there dating?
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  What Birth Sign Were You Born Under ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
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  didn't know if this has been addressed before , but it's kinda interesting.

  when we were witnesses we were always told,oh!

  don't look at horoscopes or read anything about your sign because it's demonized !

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  daringhart13

  LEO

  .....and I seem to love Libra women......
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  Review and Comments on the New Elders Book

  by MrDarkKnight in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently completed an exhaustive review of an unofficial copy of the new elders manual.

  my father, who is currently serving as an elder told me a friend of his in the service department told him it was on the internet so i eagerly looked for it and found it.

  yes, i know it was a violation of copyright, but while at bethel i made copies of many technical manuals which is also a copy of copyright so the wts hypocrisy does not concern me.. i was appointed as an elder the year the pay attention book (manual replaced by this one) was released so i have very good working knowledge of the old book and could compare the two books.

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  Thanks Mr.DarkKnight,

  I appreciate the summary.....I haven't even looked at the new book.

  However, your apology at the end resonated with me. I was an elder 11 years......and filled it with aout 40 of activity/"privileges".....

  I still have nightmares of some of the things I did under their direction. I crushes me...... and I was considered the "loving elder"

  The whole thing just makes me sick.
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  What I Will Teach My Grandson About Women

  by metatron in

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  [warning: i will make no attempt to be politically correct in this missive].

  son, i understand that your mother has given you "the talk" - about the facts of life and it's important that you know about these things now that you are becoming a man.. i appreciate your mother and all the sacrifices she has made to keep you healthy and out-of-trouble so far.

  however, there's just one more thing we need to talk about - and that is that you need to know some things about women.

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  As a single guy.....THIS is a great thread LOL
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  Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"

  by daringhart13 in

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  i had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.

  such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.

  a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.

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  Quandry,

  I've witnessed the same thing in person. MASSIVE changes to doctrine.... and I would look around to see people's faces....from the stage no less since I was the WT Conductor for 8 years......... and NOTHING........ no one even noticed!!!

  Even elders I thought were intellectual.....nothing. Tuned out.

  If the District Convention isn't one gigantic waste of time, I don't know what is..... its just social time.....NO ONE learns anything.
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  Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"

  by daringhart13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.

  such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.

  a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.

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  Fantastic thread....thanks for sharing your stories...

  I read these and I just sit here with my mouth open...its so damn mind numbing. They are complete zombies. They know NOTHING.

  wilyoman.................I could tell similar stories..... completely clueless human beings putting their children through hell.
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  Br. Loesch - great tribulation, king of the north, generation overlap, new scrolls and more...

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just got this email...... .

  subject: zone report germany date: 5/17/11 2:02:57 am.

  we thought we would share one of our interesting experiences with you.

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  daringhart13

  Don't be logical depavoux......LOL LOL

  I used to make a joke about why I don't just go into a mall or public place and gun everyone down screaming "you can thank me later".....because, you know, that ensures them a resurrection.

  When you start lying, it starts a trail of total absurdity.....
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  Long Call With Elder: Doesn't Know About "Generations/Overlapping"

  by daringhart13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a call with a good buddy......still an elder the other night.. when i mentioned generations/overlapping.......he had no clue what i was talking about.

  such a good man.......... but it doesn't matter.....they don't even realize what is being said to them; what is being done to them.

  a high stature elder in their organization....and he had no clue there was another change..... how the hell does this happen?.

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  daringhart13

  TD,

  I had to give a Local Needs talk on apostasy after a DFing of a couple in our congregation in 1995 who KNEW it was all wrong. They never returned. They were smart.....

  I asked this same elder on the phone how the Society was planning their rescue efforts. He said "huh?" ....I said ".....well I'm sure they are leaving the 99 sheep to chase the one.......you know, the one who KNEW this "light" was wrong a decade ago and left......now that they have proven they were right.....you're going to go get them all back, right??"

  He says ".......I have to let Jehovah take care of that."

  Then I said "....well even worldly publications print retractions when in error........is the WT planning that?"

  Stone silence.