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  12/15 Study WT Questions From Readers - What to do with frozen embryos

  by traveb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  didn't see this posted already so i thought i would start a new topic.

  three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos.

  the way i read it is everything to do with ivf is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.

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  traveb

  Try this link

  download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/w_E_20121215.pdf
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  12/15 Study WT Questions From Readers - What to do with frozen embryos

  by traveb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  didn't see this posted already so i thought i would start a new topic.

  three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos.

  the way i read it is everything to do with ivf is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.

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  Didn't see this posted already so I thought I would start a new topic. Three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos. The way I read it is everything to do with IVF is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.

  There's also another QFR about illegal immigrants and whether they can sign a "marriage pledge" rather then getting a legal marriage. Short answer, no.

  Discuss.
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  Watchtower honors Jehovah's Witness Elders responsible for Candice Conti and Menlo Park Fiascos

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this weekend was the convention for the southern san francisco bay area.

  it was held at the santa clara convention center in the silicon valley http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/ which is an improvement over the old s.f.

  cow palace which is still used..just not as much.

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  Just to give some background information, Brother G.A. who gave the District Convention baptism talk is a long-time pioneer elder. He also serves as a substitute circuit overseer, and has even visited a congregation I used to attend as a sub CO. I don't know him personally.

  I also heard of a special talk given to the North Fremont congregation on a Saturday a few weekends ago by a WT attorney regarding the Conti case. I don't know the content of the meeting but hopefully will find out more.
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  Mexico. JWs up 42% in 10 Years

  by Joker10 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to the recent 2010 mexico census, people 5 and older who identified themselves as jehovah's witness grew by 42%.. .

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  year 20002010% total 1,057,7361,500,98441.9% population 84,794,454106,427,63625.5% ratio, one jw to:8071 .

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  How are the statistics exaggerated or made up? I thought it was established that the WTS only counts active publishers while these secular surveys (like the Pew forms ones) count everyone who is associated with JW's.
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  You can now download (pdf) Plaintiff's Response to WT's Request for a New Trial

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  (pdf) plaintiff's response to wt's request for new trial:.

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  http://www.mediafire.com/?di4bry8su9tn1ft.

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  For any active JW's who regularly donate reading these case documents should chill them to the bone. I haven't dropped cash into a box in a long time now but one of my biggest regrets is all the money I've donated in the past when I was still a true believer. The WTS comes across as just so arrogant, almost spiteful really. It's like they can't believe someone would have the audacity to sue them and actually WIN. In their minds it cannot possibly be their fault, it has to be the elders/parents/prejudiced jury. It's really sickening.

  On a more positive note, if I'm ever involved in a civil case I want Richard Simons on my side!
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-08-2012 WT Study (GIFT MARRIAGE)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  do you plan to apply in your life?.

  the world book encyclopedia: a man and woman.

  jw parents are allowed to request a bride price for their daughters..... .

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  Is "perverted practices" in paragraph 10 code for oral and anal sex? At the meeting I attended our WT conductor just glossed over that. It's awesome how there's absolutely no scriptual backing for that rule.
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  Is the 10 Hour Per Month Requirement Still In Force?

  by Conan The Barbarian in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are there any active elders/ms or higher out there who can advise if one of the requirements for appointment is that the person's fs time is equal to or greater than either the congregation's average or the national average?

  this used to be the case, but may have been relaxed.

  also is the branch still approving appointments?

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  I can definitely attest to the fact that the 10 hour rule is still in effect. I know, because I recently lost the "privilege" of reading the WT on Sundays and carrying mics around (I'm not a MS or elder). When I was informed of this the elder told me it was because I wasn't meeting the congregational hour average. I asked him what the quota was and without blinking he said 10.

  For a while I was thinking of putting some fake time in to bump up my hours. I actually didn't mind being a mic runner because it was a distraction from the boring meetings parts. I couldn't bring myself to do that though, just felt wrong.

  To be honest, I'm not sure what the goal of taking away my "privileges" was. Is it supposed to motivate me to increase my hours? It's actually had the opposite effect, because now it makes it easier to miss meetings knowing that I have no responsiblities to care for.
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  Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this recent?

  http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

  i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

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  The story is now up on SFGate.com (San Francisco Chronicle), which is the biggest newspaper in the region. Some additional details that other articles didn't have.

  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/06/15/BAUQ1P2PH2.DTL&tsp=1

  It's also showing up on the main page:

  http://www.sfgate.com/

  Sorry, have no idea how to insert links on this board so you'll have to copy and paste.
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  Watchtower found guilty ruled to pay 7 million to 1 victim? wow

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this recent?

  http://www.silentlambs.org/oaklandlawsuit.htm.

  i havent seen anyone post about it, the link has a pdf on it of the court documents, and it looks like the stamp is from 5/12 but its blurry.. .

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  Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the story is now in the local Bay Area papers:

  http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_20867874/jehovahs-witnesses-must-pay-20-million-fremont-sex

  http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20867873/jehovahs-witnesses-must-pay-20-million-fremont-sex

  Hopefully the NY Times will pick this up soon.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-10-2012 WT Study (BETRAYAL)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how can we imitate the loyalty.

  in our loyalty to our marriage.

  your marriage mate.

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  It's amazing how the WTS glosses over David's numerous sins, and love how Blondie hammers this point over and over. I actually never thought about David's ignoring his daughter's rape before in that context.