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  30 Hour Aux. Pioneering ... 2 or 3 times per year

  by RubaDub in

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  2. beliefs

  am i understanding this correctly?

  you can do the 30 hour package either 2 or 3 times per year, depending on when the circuit overseer visits.

  here is the way i get the new rules:.

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  traveb

  The way I read it is theoretically you could do the 30-hour thing a maximum of 6 times of year. According to the letter, the 30-hour rule applies...

  During March AND April every year

  When your congregation receives its regular CO visit

  So if by chance both of your CO visits don't fall on March or April AND each visit happens to be spread out over two calendar months, then you could do 30 hours 6 times! Conversely, the minimum times it could happen would be 3. So, every year a publisher could aux. pioneer for 30 hours between 3 and 6 times depending on their congregation's CO schedule.

  Seems like a headache to keep track of!

  Imagine this scenario:

  Service Overseer: Brother, I see you only got 30 hours when you auxillary pioneered in February. What happened?

  Publisher: Don't you remember? This year was a leap year so there was an extra day in February. The last day of February was the first day of the CO visit. I thought we could put in only 30 hours if the CO was visiting.

  Service Overseer: Oh right. (Shakes head and starts talking to himself.)
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  Do JWs Really Still care about the "Truth"?

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i often read posts on here citing some km school or wt article and the comment that "now they are tightening their grip" or "they will now go after faders" etc, etc.

  my perception is that the vast majority of jws, including the elders, are suffering from apathy and fatigue.

  most simply don't care anymore.

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  It's a mix in my local congregation. Many are what I call "social JW's" like me, others are more hard-core.

  Ask the average JW to explain to you the current "generation" teaching and look for the deer in the headlights look. It's great!
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  2012 report analysis - countries with reduced publisher figures

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've just started munching through the figures for 2012 in the new 2013 yearbook, now available on jw.org.. i thought you might be interested to see which countries saw "negative growth" over 2012.. these are as follows.... .

  *sudan is so dramatically reduced because south sudan is now independent and the society has adjusted the publisher figures accordingly.. .

  countries added.

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  traveb

  One fact I like to point out is that from a demographic standpoint, the decline in the number of publishers in Japan makes sense since the country is going through a massive population decline of its own. It's been reported that the overall population will fall under 100 million in 30-40 years.
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  Report 2012. How many "real" Biblestudies are they in Jehovah's Witnesses??

  by Dold Agenda in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  biblestudies in the report, is the numbers they show us correct?.

  i've been thinking of this, and as i am from sweden i use my own country as an example.. to notice is that sweden is high penetrated of internet.

  the young ones here is often really good in english.. and i suppose that hardly one third of the jw kids finaly get baptised.. at most positive.. .

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  FYI, I believe a "bible study" with a child of a JW can only be counted once. However, the instruction that was given recently was that both parents can count the time and return visit.

  I could be wrong though, so feel free to correct me.
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  Confidential Materials!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all documents of important nature such as, our kingdom ministry, boe letters, forms, or other materials will now be sent only by email or private message communications.

  they will not be posted out here on the board.

  if someone else wants to post them, be my guest.. .. we have no other choice in this matter, and sending out confidential documents is better when it is done privately.

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  traveb

  PM sent!

  I always appreciated your posts in the past, thanks so much.
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  The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear randall.

  good morning!.

  here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

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  traveb

  This is secondhand so take it for what it's worth.

  A friend of mine went to a circuit assembly this past weekend. My friend told me they were talking to the district overseer's wife and she was tallking about the Annual Meeting they'll be going to soon. She then added that there was a big change coming up but she wasn't allowed to say anything. My friend then called her a tease!

  So it does sound like something will be announced soon.
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  12/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.

  "a college graduate in the united states.

  says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.

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  It's weird that they haven't updated JW.org yet to show the new issue of the study WT. I posted this link on the other thread I started about the QFR, but here it is again

  download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/w_E_20121215.pdf
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  12/15 Study WT Questions From Readers - What to do with frozen embryos

  by traveb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  didn't see this posted already so i thought i would start a new topic.

  three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos.

  the way i read it is everything to do with ivf is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.

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  traveb

  Try this link

  download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/w_E_20121215.pdf
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  12/15 Study WT Questions From Readers - What to do with frozen embryos

  by traveb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  didn't see this posted already so i thought i would start a new topic.

  three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos.

  the way i read it is everything to do with ivf is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.

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  Didn't see this posted already so I thought I would start a new topic. Three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos. The way I read it is everything to do with IVF is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.

  There's also another QFR about illegal immigrants and whether they can sign a "marriage pledge" rather then getting a legal marriage. Short answer, no.

  Discuss.
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  Watchtower honors Jehovah's Witness Elders responsible for Candice Conti and Menlo Park Fiascos

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this weekend was the convention for the southern san francisco bay area.

  it was held at the santa clara convention center in the silicon valley http://www.santaclara.org/conventioncenter/ which is an improvement over the old s.f.

  cow palace which is still used..just not as much.

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  traveb

  Just to give some background information, Brother G.A. who gave the District Convention baptism talk is a long-time pioneer elder. He also serves as a substitute circuit overseer, and has even visited a congregation I used to attend as a sub CO. I don't know him personally.

  I also heard of a special talk given to the North Fremont congregation on a Saturday a few weekends ago by a WT attorney regarding the Conti case. I don't know the content of the meeting but hopefully will find out more.