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Complete Bible Student website list

by Scorpion in

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http://www.network54.com/realm/present_truth/truthlinks.html

for those interested in bible student research and the teachings of c.t.russell.

Utopian_Raindrops

Onacruse,

I wrote and asked the bible students about the holocaust and this was their reply: Dear Friend: Christian greetings. Unfortuantely, the Witnesses in Europe, particularly in Germany adopted the name "Jehovah's Witnesses" in the 1950s, up till then they were called "Ernest Bible Students", thus confusion with the independent BIble Students. Although the holocaust museum is aware that there were two Bible Student groups persecuted for their beliefs, they ave not made any chnages. Some of those listed as "Jehovah's Witnesses" are actually Bible Students, persecuted for their Zionist views. Hope this helps! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To me this is most insidious. I think the WTBS has enough martyrs without stealing others for their roster!

I am sure RR can fill you in on more.

Ty for listening.

Agape, U_R For your bride.....

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Girls are EVIL!!!

by pr_capone in

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Utopian_Raindrops

You know Giz bebe I have never liked that song!

Para ti....

Agape,

U_R

Edited by - Utopian_Raindrops on 7 January 2003 4:30:56

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Elder Visits

by Wolfy in

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well....got a call from an elder in my hall yesterday.

they are wanting to come visit and wanted to set up a time.

i put it off citing family issues.

Utopian_Raindrops

Dang Wolfy,

Im so sorry.

I dont know you well. Do you have a lot of fam in The Truth?

You know I never imagined Id be the one dissed in my fam but I am.

The children and I always had a plan for if one of us did get dissed. We read and read on the subject and found loop holes to make sure we could always speak.

Thing is your fam has to be willing to do this.

Your wife how can she be blind to the fact that you could get dissed?

The time I was there I saw some unjust disfellowshippings. I knew it was possible.

My children and I had always discussed what to do if one of THEM (notice not me) decided they didnt want to be JW anymore. We always had a plan.

Still we are blesses as we are the only JW in our family.

There are the other issues, as we didnt associate with Worldly family for 15 years. Still Family is forgiving. So slowly we get back in touch.

I have been crying a lot on this board as I try to figure out whom these people are that REALY cut their family out 100%!

((((((hugs))))) Wolfy and keep your chin up.

The inquisitions will continue.we cant stop them.

Your wife has been with you so far. So I believe you and she will make it through the interrogations of the CCM!

Take care,

Real Agape,

Utopian_Raindrops

Have a beer take a deep breath and relax......

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Are we supposed to follow the law or not?

by Elsewhere in

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must follow law.

then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the lord jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence.".

--2 thessalonians 2:8. must not follow law.

Utopian_Raindrops

Elsewhere youre hilarious.

Youre going to get a whole bunch of people explaining this to you and you already know the answer.

You crazy atheist you!

By the way, I love how you kept up on your bible even though you're not a believer.

Makes your posts, especially interesting.

Kick back have a brew

Ciao 4 now,

U_R

Edited by - Utopian_Raindrops on 6 January 2003 21:50:14

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40 Years of Mental Terrorism

by Dogpatch in

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passing this on.... mental terrorism.

i am writing about a danger which is very real.

there are people, who may be grieving, who may be suffering from depression, who feel an emptiness, who feel a spiritual longing, who want hope in a world that seems hopeless, and others who are very vulnerable to this danger.

Utopian_Raindrops

Geddy Lee,

Please retract your post here about Happy man.

You dont know him and he is a very nice person.

He does think for himself and so far has chosen to be one of Jehovahs Witnesses.

Thats his right.

His English is bad but that does not make him unintelligent.

His statement here about Hell is a good one.

I have a cousin who is Missionary Baptist and when I was JW and visited her we had a discussion about Hell.

She was so upset I believed so many people would be resurrected who did not believe in Jesus. She wanted them to burn in Hell and I found that very unloving. I still do.

I am not saying that is what Dog Patch believeswhat I am saying is, is that is a good question to ask another person about their beliefs. Also, war. I appose war. I like how Quakers were. Wouldnt kill their fellow man for any reason but, If their fellow man was hurt because of war they would give medical assistance or feed hungry soldiers of both sides.

While JW many of us had our Freedom taken away. So we should not want to hinder others Freedom to speak by making fun of them.

How could making fun of a Jehovahs Witness ever make them think or take credence in anything an Ex-JW would have to say?

Now please, be a nice Rock Star and retract your mistakenly spoken words.

Thanks ahead of time,

Utopian_Raindrops

For my friend in The Great White North.....

P.S. Dogpatch I like this letter. Thanks for posting it. Tell us how is it you wish people to help with this cause?

How can ex-jws make it so there is more freedom in the WTBS. Or is the point to just bring down this religion all together?Give us your take on it please. ty

Edited by - Utopian_Raindrops on 6 January 2003 20:33:23

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Oh So Codependent With You

by COMF in

could apply to one's relationship with a controlling, abusive organization, too... reckon?.

codependent (ko'di-pen'dent).

adj.. of or relating to a relationship in which one person is psychologically dependent in an unhealthy way on someone who is addicted to a drug or self-destructive behavior, such as chronic gambling.. codependent with you (mp3, 3540 kb).

Utopian_Raindrops

Glad you like Saliva COMF.

Always is one of my fav songs.

This was an interesting thread.....made me think..

Grasias amigo.......para ti..

Agape,

U_R

Edited by - Utopian_Raindrops on 6 January 2003 19:23:42

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"Alone I break" if how I feel inside

by Truth2Me in

" i wanted to cry but i was too numb inside.

several days went by, i had my judicial hearing (i think that was sunday), they told me that i was going to be disfellowshipped.

i accepted that i deserved that.

Utopian_Raindrops

Truth2Me,

It is after 3:00am here and I am off to bed also,

But I had to let you know I am praying for you sweety.

Still as about this man in your life I think you said it best, I can't handle being pushed away again......I've been through to much

You need to heal and he doesnt even consider your feelings. If you keep getting physically cut in the same spot over and over never allowing for healing it will get gangrene.

Let your heart and mind heal before taking on another relationship.

As for friends as capone said this board is full of people who care about you.

So take care for now sugar and if you want a more personal talk e-mail me.

(((((((hugs))))))

Dont worry and relax

Our prayers are with you.

Agape,

Utopian_Raindrops

Para ti......

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Ohhhhhhhh! Mama! !

by BeautifulGarbage in

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my mom was recently emailed this pic by a jw family member.

it was taken at an assembly around 1965 or 66. so, she was in her early 20's.

check out that dress!

Utopian_Raindrops

Oh BG,

Your mother was absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!

I can tell she was a wonderful mom too as your so PROUD of her!

Thank-you for sharing her with us. Shes a vision of loverlyness.

(((((hugs)))))

Agape,

Utopian_Raindrops Para ti..

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Hi! Just a Newbie Here.

by auntiem in

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i have been looking for a place like this.

seems pretty cool.

i am about 1.5 years inactive and have no plans to go back.

Utopian_Raindrops

WELCOME AUNTIE M!!!!!

Hope to hear lots and lots from you gurl friend! Para ti..

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Habitat for Humanity JW Style

by Kenneson in

on tonight's evening news was a story about jw's from the southeast coming to a town in georgia to build a house for a needy jehovah's witness.

seems that this is recently formed program.

it's a type of quick-build, kind of along the lines of the kingdom hall builds.

Utopian_Raindrops

Dont be sorry Auntie!

I was once told that it was ok to take from the worldly charity because The Israelites received from The Egyptians. Totally shrugging off their responsibilities as Christians.

Of course there were rules in even the taking of Charities. You could not donate to charity, Religious or otherwise.

If meeting attendance to Christendom was a requirement then you could not receive the charity.

I wont go into this anymore as I have RANTED on this subject before OVER and OVER and OVER again.

If you want to read my rants you can click on my name in the members section.

Still I am sure youd prefer to ponder on HAPPY Thoughts.

WELCOME AUNTIE!!!!

Here you will find A LOT of Moms who were in situations such as yours In The Truth.

It seems Brotherly Love WATCHTOWER (tm) style abounds.

I am blessed in that some in The Org have tried to help but most of them were as needy as me. So needy in fact they still talk to me although I am dissed! Us single moms have to stick together even if all we can give is a listening ear to the next rant.

Hope to be reading many more of your posts!

Agape,

Utopian_Raindrops

Para ti......

Utopian_Raindrops

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