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  It looks like I will become an elder this week!

  by outofthebox in

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  that's right guys.

  as i told you before, they boe have been considering me for the eldership.

  which i don't care for, but since my family is stuck in this cult, i guess i can use the new position to help them see that the holy spirit has nothing to do with me being an elder.

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  I hope your reign of eldership lands you in my parents KH and they are able to open their eyes to the real truth.

  I thank you, my children thank you.

  I'd do it...I mean if I didn't have anything more exciting going on in my life.

  lisa
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  Hi I am new here

  by One true Jesus Freak in

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  hi i stumbled across this place from using the library computer.

  someone had the page left opened and i looked around and thought to myself "what an interesting bunch of people" i don't mean interesting as in strange, but as in great.

  i have enjoyed reading many of the posts by everyone.

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  How cool is that? Someone from this board was at your library.

  I wish that would happen to me.

  Welcome JF

  lisa
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  When a little girl is abused.....

  by lisavegas420 in

  1. watchtower
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  when any one of jehovah's witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate.

  two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter.

  if the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there.

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  When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time. Why not? As a Bible-based organization, we must adhere to what the Scriptures say, namely, "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin . . . At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15) Jesus reaffirmed this principle as recorded at Matthew 18:15-17. However, if two persons are witnesses to separate incidents of the same kind of wrongdoing, their testimony may be deemed sufficient to take action.

  http://www.jw-media.org/region/global/english/backgrounders/e_molestation.htm

  I don't start very many threads, I read way more than I post. But sometimes things just get to ya.

  Yesterday, I was privy to some information. A child age 9, being at the very best neglected, at the very worst, abused. (I work for a realestate company and some tenants in the rental property's called and complained about things they've seen and heard coming from another apartment.) I insisted the tenants called both the police and the social services, if that is indeed what is going on.

  Anyway....that was still on my mind this morning as I was surfing the net. And I checked out what would have happened if I was still a JW and something inapproiate was going on in my life currently and what their current thoughts are on this. The above is what I found.

  Which lead my mind to wonder....

  What???!!!! NO way...do they really expect a child,.... let's say a llittle 7-10 year old girl.... to repeat in the abusive parents presence and some strange uneducated men what happened to them?

  Who would expect a child to be able to do that?

  look at this face...how could you make her go before her abuser EVER again...EVER?

  (this is my granddaugher, and she's never been abused or neglected, (I heard her tell her friend that she had never been spanked or grounded, I guess that's true..she's just an really great kid......but look at that face of innocence) How could anyone cause a child more pain if they can prevent it?

  

  That's it...just sharing my thoughts....and a picture of my grand daughter...and thinking how good it feels to be free.

  lisa
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  JW's and antidepressants

  by karter in

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  my jw wife was telling me how much better a sister was now shes on prozac it turns out half the congo is on it .

  it appears jehovah's happy people are not so happy after all.

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  two thing...first, when I was in, and on antidepressants, I didn't know anyone else was. I just thought there was something wrong with me.

  secondly...I look back now, to when I was a child. and my mom was depressed, of course I didn't know it at the time. I remember once she told me.."how can I explain to your doctor that I'm distraught because I'm afraid my children will be distroyed." Maybe she should have said that to the doctor.

  lisa
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  Dubs and doorbells -- has there been some "new light"?

  by parakeet in

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  this afternoon my husband looked out the window and saw two unmistakable dubs shuffling up our street.

  he didn't have time to warn me before they came to our door (he knows i get a bit testy whenever they visit).

  i was in a nearby room, but heard nothing, saw nothing.

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  I was a PDK

  (pretend door knocker)

  lisa
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  Awake & Watching

  by FadingAway in

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  let's give her a big group hug, she needs it.. (((((((a&w))))))))).

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  lisavegas420

  sending you positive thoughts

  I've noticed that there are several living within 100miles +/- of us. Hopefully we can plan a meet up when it gets warm

  lisa
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  The Gift of Fear

  by Panda in

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  now a book to explain those creepy feelings you get from some people.

  and why we are often taught to negate our instincts in favor of what society teaches us.

  some really terrific examples from many law enforcement agencies.

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  alright...I put in a request at the local library.

  thank you

  lisa
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  A few wines and I hate the fact...

  by sparrow in

  1. social
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  generally i am a cool, calm and collected kinda guy.

  no one dislikes me.

  i go out of my way to make sure of it.

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  HOWEVER, a couple of wines, my brain slows down, I contemplate different scenarios and I always come to the same conclusion.

  maybe you could try beer or whiskey

  I share many of the feelings you expressed. Thank you for sharing.

  lisa
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  what is the generation change that happened in 1995 ?

  by looloo in

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  i left in 1995 , ive heard ypu talk of it but what actually was said and what was the reation to the change by the rank and file , i do remember the millions now living will never die saying .

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  When I was growing up, it was drummed into our heads, that the generation that was of age, in 1914 would live to see the end of this world.

  They said a generation was 70-80 years, well time was running out...and those that were alive in 1914 were droppin' like flys, so they had to change it.

  Years ago, I *innocently* said to my dad, "So...those 1914 people are getting up in years dad."

  He said, "The light is getting brighter, we now understand that we might not have the right understanding of generation, so it's been changed."

  I said.."what, they can't change the rules in mid stream!..the bible didn't change..who makes up these rules"

  He said."lisa..the light is getting brighter:"

  I said, "Brighter, dad, the freaking light is blinking off and on."

  he hung up on me....Shortly after that.....I got a computer, and my yahoo email address is "blinkinlite" ...the rest of the scales fell from my eyes.

  lisa
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  Courting couples in the JW having sex together before marriage?

  by chikikie in

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  2. relationships

  i left about 8 years ago, at the grand old age of 24, basically being an unmarried mum of 1 (baptised when my girl was 11months old) and the 'tipping point for me' when elder sisters tried to set me up for marriage to a 64year old elder, as that would be the only man willing to marry a girl such as myself.

  i ran away, i moved 300miles away.

  there should be a witness pretection programme ;).

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  when I was a young thing of 18 or so, the elders' wives got together and found me a mate - an old man about 50 years older than I, about 8 inches shorter, badly scarred from a fire, and who talked about his dead wife all the time. Yuck. And why did the sisters want me to marry him? They told me he had a lot of money and he wouldn't live long! Ummm-hmmm - real spiritual attitude there.

  Is he dead? did he ever remarry? just asking. and for all those that the sisters tryed to marry you off. that never happened to me. i think all the brothers were warned about me way before i did anything wrong. one time, I did meet a nice guy at a Cincinnati assemby. He came back to see me a week later in Lexington, and told me, that his uncle, an elder had called my KH and ask about me, and they said I was bad news. but he came anyway. he said he didn't know if he'd get in trouble or not. he came back again, maybe 3 or 4 times, we did have sex on the last occasion, but I never saw him again. this is the only JW guy I ever had sex with. maybe he felt guilty? maybe he got what he wanted? who knows. Anyway..he was cute, and nice. So..this is a shout out to Steve S in the Cincinnati area. lisa