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  So you really want to join Bethel?

  by bats in the belfry in

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  part of the questions being asked you would think you are subscribing to a life insurance policy.. .. .. .

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  lisavegas420

  There is a great thread that speaks of the 'rules' at Bethel:

  1. The table head decides which direction the food will be passed 2. No licking your fingers (even when you eat bbq ribs) 3. Only shirts with collars were allowed unless you worked construction 4. No shirts with logos of any kind were allowed 5. The door must be wide open if a guy and a girl are in the same room (including an office) 6. You are expected to meet or exceed the national average (for service hours) even though you worked on saturdays and sunday was the meeting 7. You are to pay $3.00 to the person that drives in your car group from bethel to the meeting 8. You must go to EVERY morning worship, and never be so much as 1 second late. There is a clock displayed so that you know the SECOND it turns 7:00am. 9. No heavy metal or rap music is allowed. It's grounds for termination 10. No R rated movies of any sort. Again, grounds for termination 11. Couples can not make "noise" while having sex. In fact when a brother gets married he is to meet with his overseer before the wedding to have a "sex" talk about what is appropriate (missionary only) and what is not (oral, anal, nasal...) 12. You cannot use the elevator (if you are a male) until you have 15 years of full-time service 13. Your bed must be made every morning military style (they have a certain way to fold the sheets and bed spread) 14. The housekeeper is to report you if they find anything "inappropriate" in your room. But they are not allowed to look in the closets (go figure) 15. You CAN subscribe to sports illustrated, but you had to sign a waiver that they could "destroy" the swimsuit edition and not deliver it to you

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/198008/1/Bethel-Rules#.UpILLRXnbzB
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  Feb 2014 WT Study article

  by molybdenum in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the caption under the picture in the first article.

  hail christthe glorious king!says:.

  birds will be called on to cleanse the earth (see paragraph 18).

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  lisavegas420

  That bird comment might ruffle a few feathers. It looks like the GB is just wing'n it.
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  YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE ACTS EVER MENTIONED IN A WATCHTOWER PUBLICATION

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  faking of hours in field service or dragging service time out by making coffee stops or driving for hours "between" household contacts are never frowned upon, let alone mentioned, in the publications.

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  yet, in each congregation of jehovah's witnesses, to one degree or another, faking hours, padding time out with coffee stops and long journeys between opportunities to "witness" are endemic practices..

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  first T-day dinner this year

  by Hortensia in

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  i live in a seniors-only apartment complex.

  management has a tendency to patronize us, which is interesting and rather entertaining.

  today we had our annual t-day dinner for the seniors, catered by a local church.

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  lisavegas420

  I work for an attorney that is the guardian of many elderly people that can no longer handle their finances and/or take care of themselves without help and don't have family that can or will help. Sometimes that's how he becomes their guardian is because the people in their lives are taking advantage of them and someone reports them and he is court appointed as their guardian.
  
  Some of these Wards live in assisted living or senior communities and will call me though out the day just to chat because they have no one in their lives to talk to. It might be about a piece of mail they got or something they saw on TV.
  
  Get togethers like you went to give them something to do and talk about. I think most of the time the dinners are from donations and just out of kindness.
  
  I'm glad you went, and I enjoyed your story thank you for sharing. Pictures would have been fun.
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  First Post - Introduction

  by Syme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my first post on jwn, and i would like to take a few lines to introduce myself.. i currently am still in the organization, though my conviction in the last 1-2 years is more or less agnostic/atheist (closer to atheist).

  i am an ex-elder and mts graduate, having served in another 3 congregations, apart from my home one.. the reason for the above-mentioned conviction shift has to do with science and rational, logical thinking generally, and with the grand theory of evolution, specifically.

  it took me long, endless sessions of hard reading and study of serious scientific literature (plus cross-matching all the quotes and claims in jw evolution-related literature), to finally make the shift from utterly firm religious belief to doubt, and then to lack of religious faith.

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  lisavegas420

  Welcome, great first post.
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  Im not sure how much longer i can take this

  by DS211 in

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  i kind of snapped at my wife today...for no reason really.

  and in my frustration ive been contemplating just spilling the beans...i know its not the best idea but i do t know how much longer i can lead a double life and hide the truth.

  as i still believe in god i feel like a hypocrite.

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  you mentioned smoking and now I have Nictoine Addiction and Lung Cancer ads on my page.

  Don't you just hate that you can't just quit like a Gym membership that no longer suits your current needs. Someone at the gym might call and ask if you are alright. But they wouldn't shun you if they saw you later out in public wearing a different Gym tshirt. The hardest part is stopping the auto-withdrawals for the old Gym membership from your checking account.
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  Advise needed please

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear forumites, i need your advise please.. i would like to write a letter to the world headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses regarding a subject that i've published an article recently.

  i would like to draw the attention of the gb to said article, which i will send in print form (therefore, no attention would be drawn to the website where it was published).. naturally, because i am a jehovah's witness in good standing in the congregation and what i'll be discussing in my letter will be a dissenting view from the official doctrine/practice, i want to protect my identity and i don't want to be harassed by elders or subjected to any sort of judicial investigation.

  nevertheless, i would be very interested in reading their response (if any) to my letter.. how can i do that?

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  lisavegas420

  I suggest a fake name and a friend that has a post office box.

  If suddenly there was "new light" and the shunning policy was changed and my parents and siblings called me after 25 yrs of shunning me....
  I don't know that I'd be ready or even want to just jump into a relationship with those strangers.
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  Finally sending a letter to the elders today

  by Suraj Khan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  figured i'd give them a shot to explain why i was expelled from the congregation 23 years ago without counsel or a jc.

  dear sirs:.

  i attended the xxxx congregation in the mid-1980s as a teenaged unbaptized publisher.

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  lisavegas420

  I've been wanting to send a letter like this for the same reasons. In my case it's been 25yrs.
  
  
  I heard I've been labled a" full-blown Apostate" and that I was trying to "take down the 'tower'".

  I was surprised, and a little flattered.
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  Should I move officially to this new cong?

  by will-be-apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i got in college recently (petroleum engineering), which is 150+ miles away from my home town.

  i started to go to the meetings once in a while to please my parents because i hate lieing to them, although i did several times regarding meetings.. last time an elder - special pioneer - came to me at the hall and asked me if i had already thought about transfering my 'files' aka.

  publisher card to that congregation.

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  lisavegas420

  Enjoy college, put all your attention into your education and your future having some fun along the some way.

  Do what you have to do but be true to yourself.
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  lisavegas420

  There is nothing the JW's have to offer, including their paraise earth and my parents and siblings that I would trade for what I have on the outside.