Posts by lisavegas420

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This board.... How did you find it?

by hubert in

i am wondering... how did you first come across this board?

..... searching the web?

a friend?

lisavegas420

I got my first home computer on....umm...well what date did I register here...that's the day I got my home computer....the first thing I did was type in Jehovah's Witness......I was overwhelmed with the amount of information..

First I found a blog...of course I didn't know that's what it was at the time, I thought I had somehow accidently loged on to someones personal diary. But I read it anyway.. Anyway, this person had written in his blog about having to give a talk on the up-coming Thursday night meeting and how much he was dreading it. On this person blog I found a link that led me to this site.

I stayed up and read and read and read...I would actually get little beads of sweat on my upper lip, my heart would start pounding really hard. But, I couldn't stop reading.

Then, as if my magic, I stoped taking anti-depressants over the next few weeks, after 20+ years of being on them

This board was the best thing that could have happened to me. I was really waiting to die. The meds just got me though each day. I now feel like a whole new person. Thank you Simon and Ang. and everyone else that posts here. You saved my live.

Lisa

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JWD's growth rate trounces that of the JWs

by seattleniceguy in

jw
friends

check it out.

i signed up on december 15. i am member 11210. members signing up the middle of this month were in the mid 14400's.

that means in 8 months, we've had about 3200 additional people show up.

lisavegas420

I signed up on December 15. I am member 11210. Members signing up the middle of this month were in the mid 14400's. That means in 8 months, we've had about 3200 additional people show up. An increase of 3200 from 11210 is about 28.5%. As an annual rate, that's about 43%!

3200 people (possibly apostates) at the very least it seems like they would all have a reason to sign up. Either they are JW's, x-JW's or either interested parties (family, partners, ect. of JW's or x-JW's) Who else would sign up?

Lisa

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JW Connections guy looking for a 10

by tonyend in

below is an email from an acquantance who has a profile on jw connections.

i've edited out her name in order to protect the innocent.

i have a profile in jw connections right, i think i told you this a while back.

lisavegas420

here's a little more:

First I write:
Bro.Henry
> Brother Henry, How grand of you to reply so rapidly. Exactly what is it that you need a brother or sister do. And what do I get out of the deal? A percentage perhaps?
>
> I'm looking forwared to your reply.
> Thank you for contacting me!

Then he responds:

From:	henry1
Date:	26 Aug 2004 13:36
Subject:	Please write me soon
Message:	Dear sister, Thanks for your response.I would rather prefare we discuss this transaction on my private mailbox [email protected] as this network is used solely for enhancing social relationship and making new friends. I am glad you are willing to assist me.Please contact me once again on my email address [email protected] so that I will detail you accordingly.Do send your phone number as well. As for your percentage,I will have to discuss with my other colleagues and would let you know when you contact me.Do indicate your full names and address as well. Awaiting your response

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JW Connections guy looking for a 10

by tonyend in

below is an email from an acquantance who has a profile on jw connections.

i've edited out her name in order to protect the innocent.

i have a profile in jw connections right, i think i told you this a while back.

lisavegas420

I responded back to Brother Henry and asked him to please tell me more, this is the reply I got:

From:

henry1

Date:

26 Aug 2004 05:17

Subject:

More Information

Message:

My dear sister ,

Thanks for your quick response to my mail. I always welcome friends, especially among Jehovahs people.Honestly inaddition to being a brother, I'll like to be your friend, you have touched my heart a great deal for being this accomodating and ready to give me your ears too.

You see I work in a financial institution as a Senior Manager here in South Africa.I have some funds which I will like you to help some of my colleagues and I secure in europe. It left here through a diplomatic means enroute to Holland barely a week now.Just yesterday,we received a letter from the security company notifying us that the fund has arrived their corporate office but requested that they should be informed on place of payment to enable them liase with their office in that country of payment.So I am contacting you to assist me in securing the fund and get the money released to you.I shall send you a detailed mail on how you are to go about the disbursement with its respective account details.

This fund emanated from a deliberate over invoiced pay voucher of an already executed, paid and commissioned
contract in our office the African Development Bank (AD
It is on behalf of myself and a few top ranking officials of {ADB}that I made the informal proposal to you yesterday.Since I am a memeber of JW I suggested we use a brother too whom could be trusted to receive the fund.

The original contractors are not aware of this mark up of the pay voucher, because we intend to use the fund for ourselves.

Therefore, it is our intention to get this fund, which has been documented, certified and earmarked for payment; transferred into a foreign/neutral account.
And we decided to seek for your co-operation and assistance.

Please do let me know immediately if you have a bank account ready that can carry the fund. In addition please do let me have your email address and your private telephone number for easy contacts.

Take Care,
Bro.Henry

Then I guess he realized that I am a woman, and wrote back and told me this:

From:	henry1
Date:	26 Aug 2004 05:24
Subject:	Thanks for the response
Message:	My dear sister, I guess you will understand what I meant by a brother.The word brother there comprises brother/sister.Now I have a sister,who is willing to help out,you may name what could be your gratification please so that I can communicate my other very senior colleagues ok. I await your response please. Bro. Henry * edited to add...don't mean to hijack tonyend's thread, just thought this was funny, and it does has to do with JWConnections also* Lisa

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JW Connections guy looking for a 10

by tonyend in

below is an email from an acquantance who has a profile on jw connections.

i've edited out her name in order to protect the innocent.

i have a profile in jw connections right, i think i told you this a while back.

lisavegas420

I went to JWConnections to check out the profile and a few minutes later got this message in my inbox:

From:	henry1
Date:	26 Aug 2004 04:38
Subject:	Hello Sister
Message:	Hello Sister, Good morning.I'm Henry and I am presently at work now.Iam a 39 year old from south africa would wish to pull a deal with you ok.I want you to help secure some funds in Europe.I hope you can travell to London or Holland. Believing same and trusting that you will be a true Brother. I await your response please. Bro. Henry

This could be my last chance to get really rich...whatcha think?

Lisa

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Question... Do JWs shun Family?

by Sassy in

i had a disagreement with xq in chat today, because he was trying to say that jws for the most part disobey the wts and still treat family like family even if they are dfd or quit being witnesses.. i don't feel that is true.

i think that the majority of us on here who no longer are jws have family members who no longer have anything to do with us and shun us.... so i said it would be interesting to take a poll and see how many here are treated just like all the rest of your 'loving family' who is a jw still.......are you treated the same?.

does family shun you for being df'd, da'd or no longer participating?or do they hide and talk to you but only when other active jws can't see?

lisavegas420

Do any of you think that growing up with conditonal love from pretty much everyone affected you as a adult? I have been pondering this question as of late. Is this why I don't form attachments easily? Is this why I can walk away from pretty much anyone and it doesn't bother me? Was I conditoned enough growing up that if you screw up you are not loved anymore? When I gave birth to my child it was the first time I truly understood just how screwed up it is to turn your back on your own flesh and blood. The love I have for him is more then I have for myself.
It would never matter to me what he did...he would never lose my love. He may lose my respect and need a good kick in the @ss once in a while but I would never NOT love him or care about his well being.

OMG...I could have written that word for word........I think the way I was raised is exactly why I have a hard time forming attachements. Except for my husband and children and now grandchildren, I don't have any what I would call close friendships. My adult children continue to do things that I don't always agree with, but I would never stop talking or start shunning them for their decisions.

And how do you think you would feel towards your parents if you could have association with them again?

It's been 15 years since I've had a one on one with either of my parents. I have often wondered if I would even like them. I am a completely different person then I was when I left.

Lisa

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Question... Do JWs shun Family?

by Sassy in

i had a disagreement with xq in chat today, because he was trying to say that jws for the most part disobey the wts and still treat family like family even if they are dfd or quit being witnesses.. i don't feel that is true.

i think that the majority of us on here who no longer are jws have family members who no longer have anything to do with us and shun us.... so i said it would be interesting to take a poll and see how many here are treated just like all the rest of your 'loving family' who is a jw still.......are you treated the same?.

does family shun you for being df'd, da'd or no longer participating?or do they hide and talk to you but only when other active jws can't see?

lisavegas420

Does family shun you for being DF'd, DA'd or no longer participating? DF'd and yes
Or do they hide and talk to you but only when other active JWs can't see?? no contact at all
Do they share meals with you? no meals either
Go shopping, see movies, do PUBLIC things with you? no shopping, no movies, nothing in public, or private including phone calls, email, or letters.
Is your life the same with them when you were a JW, as when you are not? my dad called and said his daugher named Lisa was dead. So they don't talk to me, my husband, my children, or grandchilden.

Lisa

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Defending the WT despite doubts

by kj in

jw
friends

i just wanted to ask some of you a question.

i have been meeting with a jw woman for 4 months now.

i've asked her several difficult questions, and shown her a few things about the wt and their lies- including the letter from the un's website that confirmed they were an ngo for 9 years.

lisavegas420

A witness sister has been coming over for the past two years to have a bible study. She know nothing about my JW past. Anyway, about a month ago I handed her the UN letter and asked her some questions about it. She said it was all lies. I said I think they would have to have backup before they sent out a letter like that.

She has not been back to my house since. She now comes when I'm not home and drops the mags off..

Lisa

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JW's and interracial marriage?

by c.dawn in

my nephew a jw who is white is dating another jw who is black with the intent to announce their engagement soon.. i had been reading about the past history of the jw's opinion of the black race.

old writings that said they were gods people too, but not intelligent as white etc and not qualified intellectually to go door to door to teach etc.that all people would be white in the new system.. i had read of a rope being run down the pews of the fellowship halls to separate the races during services during the 50's early 60's at the halls that did allow intergrated services... this was supposed to have taken place even up to a few years after de-segregation in the schools and other public places took effect.. that in some areas they had their own hall to meet at and the whites had theirs.

at one point the members of the black hall had asked to meet at the white hall as their building was being repaired or soemthing and they were told no, that some of the members of the white hall wouldn't understand or approve.. and i read that even up into the late 90's, many black members still weren't being given postions or responsibilities that whites had held since the beginning of the jw's.. i was just wondering how far they've come along to improve this image and if anyone knows thier opinion of interracial marriages.

lisavegas420

I can't think of any black and white issues with any of the Kingdom Halls I've ever attended. But my dad made it quite clear that a mixed relationship in his family would not be accepted.

Also, I remember a black brother kept asking my sister out. She kept saying no, because he was a strange man. He went to the elders and complained that she wouldn't date him because he was black. THey asked my sister about it. She told the elders she was not interested in dating him, and it had nothing to do with his color. The issue was dropped.

Lisa

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Can you just have your publisher card removed?

by Atilla in

jw
friends

there has been much discussion on this board lately about disassociation, the pros, cons, etc.

i have not da'd myself yet because i don't want to play into their hands but that is about the only reason.

i know some people have tried the whole baptism nullification with mixed results but i'm curious if you could simply call up the head elder of your former kh and simply request that your your name and information be destroyed, you no longer want to be bothered.

lisavegas420

I know this isn't any help. But,

I remember my husbands family (not JW's, baptists) that used to talk about having their membership cards moved to another church. I always wondered what they would say, if I wrote and told them(Kingdom Hall) to please send my membership card to such and such church if I'd get any response.

Lisa