Posts by goddidit

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Debate

by goddidit in

i'd like to have a one-on-one online debate with an active jw.

it doesn't have to be private.. anyone have any suggestions how i might arrange this?.

goddidit

So active means going to meetings and round the doors but not necessarily believing it?

Are these active non-believers the people that just stay because they don't want to lose friends and/or family?

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Debate

by goddidit in

i'd like to have a one-on-one online debate with an active jw.

it doesn't have to be private.. anyone have any suggestions how i might arrange this?.

goddidit

Maybe I need to re-ask the question but first I need some definitions please.

I assumed there were simply active, meaning someone that believes it all and goes to KH, and non-active, meaning an ex-jw.

Also, what is "conscious class"?

I assumed there wouldn't be any active (by my previous definition) jws on this site at all. Is that wrong? If there is some, are they here covertly?

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Debate

by goddidit in

i'd like to have a one-on-one online debate with an active jw.

it doesn't have to be private.. anyone have any suggestions how i might arrange this?.

goddidit

I'd like to have a one-on-one online debate with an active JW. It doesn't have to be private.

Anyone have any suggestions how I might arrange this?

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The WTS say they are NOT Creationists........

by cantleave in

then wtf are they?.

why don't they like that term?.

goddidit

Well as Adam was created on "day" 6 of 7 and died AFTER the 7 creation days at an age of 930, I guess each day can be no more than about 930 years long. Hmmmm

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untitled

by goddidit in

i was told by a jw that the linguists have drawn lines on the map between languages with common words and the lines intersect at a single point, which they claim must be where the tower of babel was.

obviously, this doesn't work mathematically but i'd be interested to see the article if anyone knows where to locate it.. thanks.

goddidit

Thanks Chris

I did ask for the article but he was unable to locate it at the time ;-)

I explained that the premise implies all migrations from the tower went in straight lines right up until today and the response was 'well, maybe the lines are symbolic', LOL!

Still interested to see the article if it exists...

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untitled

by goddidit in

i was told by a jw that the linguists have drawn lines on the map between languages with common words and the lines intersect at a single point, which they claim must be where the tower of babel was.

obviously, this doesn't work mathematically but i'd be interested to see the article if anyone knows where to locate it.. thanks.

I was told by a JW that the linguists have drawn lines on the map between languages with common words and the lines intersect at a single point, which they claim must be where the tower of babel was. Obviously, this doesn't work mathematically but I'd be interested to see the article if anyone knows where to locate it.

Thanks

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2 unrelated questions

by goddidit in

what is the jw's explanation for how all the animals got to australia after the flood?.

they bang on about carbon dating being flawed, using the usual creationist mis-information and lies but are they even aware of all the other dating methods and the fact that multiple independent methods are used and results only taken as true when they agree?.

goddidit

What is the JW's explanation for how all the animals got to Australia after the flood?

They bang on about carbon dating being flawed, using the usual creationist mis-information and lies but are they even aware of all the other dating methods and the fact that multiple independent methods are used and results only taken as true when they agree?

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Where can I get this book?

by goddidit in

"my book of bible stories".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/file:my_book_of_bible_stories.jpg.

preferably electronic and free.

goddidit

"My Book of Bible Stories"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:My_book_of_bible_stories.jpg

Preferably electronic and free

Thanks

5

Deconversion

by goddidit in

so i gather most of the people on this forum are ex-jws who have seen the error of their ways.. good for you guys.. would that put you in the unique position of knowing exactly how to make a current jw have doubts.. if so, how might that be?.

i've tried science, philosophy, even simple logic and pointing out the quote mining but to no avail.. i'm not even saying there isn't a god, just that their version of the story blatantly contradicts emperical science in so many ways..

goddidit

So I gather most of the people on this forum are ex-JWs who have seen the error of their ways.

Good for you guys.

Would that put you in the unique position of knowing exactly how to make a current JW have doubts.

If so, how might that be?

I've tried science, philosophy, even simple logic and pointing out the quote mining but to no avail.

I'm not even saying there isn't a god, just that their version of the story blatantly contradicts emperical science in so many ways.

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Age of Adam

by goddidit in

jw
friends

does anyone happen to know what the jws have to say about this?.

i know apologists usually have a convoluted answer for everything but i just can't think how they could possibly defend this.

so, each 'day' of creation is 7000 years long, adam was created on the 6th 'day', god rested on the 7th 'day', adam then dies at an age of something like 930 years!!.

goddidit

Does anyone happen to know what the JWs have to say about this?

I know apologists usually have a convoluted answer for everything but I just can't think how they could possibly defend this. So, each 'day' of creation is 7000 years long, Adam was created on the 6th 'day', god rested on the 7th 'day', Adam THEN dies at an age of something like 930 years!!

Have I missed something? I assume they have a workaround and I'd be interested to hear what it is.

Thanks