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  Internet restrictions

  by goddidit in

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  2. bible

  i'm trying to locate an article from one of the jw publications.

  not sure which one, but i'm wondering if anyone can help me locate it.

  something along the lines of "we do not read their [apostates?

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  Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?

  by goddidit in

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  a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".

  can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.

  thanks.

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  Are logos evil?

  by goddidit in

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  i have a vague memory of jws having some objection to logos of some kind in the past, which might be a contradiction to the recent addition of the jw.org logo.. please can someone enlighten me on what their stance used to be regarding logos?.

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  Commitment

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  i always wondered why jws found it so hard to just walk away once they decided they didn't believe anymore.

  surely all they have to do is stop going to the meetings, i thought.

  i imagined there must be more to it than i could see but i might never know.

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  NASA's lost day

  by goddidit in

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  i stumbled across this old chestnut.

  i remember a jw telling me this when i was a kid, and he believed it.. i only recently found out how well known this is, and has been for some time.

  does anyone know which of the jw mags or books had it in?.

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  Combatting cult mind control by steven hassan

  by goddidit in

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  2. beliefs

  so i've been hearing a lot of good things about this book.

  apparently, some of its readers were actual believing jws and it deprogrammed them.. i'm curious why they read it in the first place though, since jws are discouraged from reading anything outside their own literature.. i know a recent convert who i'd like to help.

  i could buy him the book.

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  Counterpoints needed

  by goddidit in

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  i'm looking for some brief counterpoints to some or all of the following claims made by a jw.

  this will be very helpful.

  something brief with links would be best.

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  Bad argument

  by goddidit in

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  2. bible

  in my quest to help jws wake up i came up with this (at least i think i came up with it myself, can't be sure).. i was hoping someone could help me refine it to be as easy as possible to understand and as hard as possible to weasel out of by some semantics.. just to be clear, i'm an atheist.

  this is written for the context of jw beliefs.. .

  premise 1: even if a position is true, it is possible for an argument in favour of it to be a bad argument, e.g.

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  Literature of false teachers

  by goddidit in

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  i'm going to ask a jw if they are discouraged from reading books outside of their watchtower publications.

  when he says "no" i want to counter the claim by showing the numerous examples i've seen in their literature of exactly that.

  trouble is i don't know where they are.

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  Undeniable

  by goddidit in

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  i've got an audience with a believing jw.

  yes, i know he's not really listening.

  i see all the usual signs of cognitive dissonance.

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