To the OP: if you click on the 'search' box in the blue banner at the top of the screen, and type in 'relationship with jehovah' or 'relationship with god' you will find many threads on this topic. It is one of the puzzling things about this religion. I never got baptised because I couldn't make Jehovah 'real'- and as I found out later, there is a good reason why this is so difficult...
transhuman68
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Relationship with Jehovah?
by Batman89 inwhen you were a devout jw.
did you feel that you had an actual "relationship" with jehovah/god just from praying to him and reading the wt or bible?.
or that this was actually even possible deep down?.
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What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????
by karter inwaisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..
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transhuman68
Shattersphere- Lost In The Flames:
No God can save you now
My God, I have no faith
I'm stuck in this f****d up place
(My son, I'm right here next to you)
I try to live and learn
But I still feel the burn
(My son, I'm here for you...)I've spread my love and all my faith
I've done it all in seven days
I never thought it would be this way
And I'm still bleedingSo I fall down to pray
But I think I've lost my page
(My son, it's lost in the flames)Lost in the hands of time
Hands of time take me away to where I want to be
Lead the way because I can't see the life in me
I was lost in the flames as I screamedMy God, I've failed again
I wait for your crushing hand
(My son, I'm afraid it's too late)Is this for real?
Save me now
Life's tough when you're young and trapped in a KH with a bunch of fools, lol...
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"But the Basics haven't changed"
by Phizzy ina couple of days ago in town i met a jw guy i have known since he was a kid in diapers, he is now an elder and must be 40 yrs old, still a kid to me, though.. he gave me the spiel about "we would love to see you come back " , i said that i could not come back to the religion i had left as it no longer existed (a line i got from my friend bill), this elder replied that there "had been changes, but the basics remain the same".. i just was not quick enough with this one, i just sort of nodded at that and went on about what i simply could not swallow as "truth".
overlapping generation etc etc.. what he was meaning by the basics being the same is that nothing has changed on the "what jw's don't believe in" front, i.e trinity, immortal soul etc.
the reality it is that the basics of jw/wt teachings about what they do believe in have all changed !.
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transhuman68
Well, they are still waiting for Armageddon... no change there, lol ...
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Bible Atrocities
by Trapped in JW land ini really can't wrap my head around how people can still consider god loving with such atrocious biblical accounts such as, 1 samuel 15, (god ordering the slaughter of amelikite baby's and children) 2nd kings 2, forgot the verses (god sending bears to maul 42 children) and many others.have you ever asked a witness or anyone elsewhat they think about these accounts?
what was their response?
i'd love to ask one, but unfortunately i'm still physically in the cult and i wouldn't want to raise any suspicions.
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transhuman68
Mormons don't mind a good massacre...
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One thing about this site that bothers me
by keyser soze inthe constant references to 'window washers' as something derogatory.. i understand the context of it-that most jws are uneducated, and unqualified to do much more.
but sometimes the references seem snobbish, almost mean-spirited.
one poster, on another thread, essentially referred to window washers as 'losers'.
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transhuman68
I don't see anything wrong with jokes about window cleaners. It's a fact of life about JWs- the congregations really are usually made up of working-class people. The real joke is that the elders are no more 'spiritual' than my cat, and they probably spend most of the meeting thinking about the jobs they will be doing in the next few days. It's just the blind leading the blind. At least in a real church, they clergy may have some years of theological training- and although they really don't have any answers, at least they understand the questions.
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When we die...
by Finallyfree12 indo you beleive our spirit lives on in other dimensions or are we really just dead?
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transhuman68
From Terry Lane's book 'God: The Interview'(1993):
GOD: So at what point in the evolutionary process did Homo-sapiens acquire a soul? At the transition point from Neanderthal man to Cro-Magnon perhaps? Somewhere in the evolutionary process humans must have acquired this peculiar characteristic which you apparently do not share with any other creatures. Did Cro-Magnon man have a soul?
Or Neanderthal man? Do you think that I've got a bunch of Neanderthals up here somewhere enjoying eternal bliss- a bunch of hairy angels with beetling brows whose knuckles drag on the clouds? Do you see what you are proposing?You know that every living creature on the earth has come about by a process which began in the Big Bang. Out of all that stardust that was flung around at the time life has emerged and organised itself into forms of ever greater complexity. And in the process one lot of genes have got themselves set up in a body with an outsize brain, rather than one with a fancy tail or great muscles for hopping.
And you are proposing that at some point in this process-fairly recently, apparently-the Homo sapiens branch of the evolutionary tree took a unique turning and somehow acquired a characteristic which it alone enjoys, called a soul.But you can't tell me exactly when this is supposed to have happened and what the difference was in the creature before and after this curious development, except that presumably before it didn't have the capacity for immortality and afterwards it did.
Does that sound very probable to you?Houston, we have a problem...
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OMG I'm so happy!!!!
by Julia Orwell inyup, the apostate is happy.
i shouldn't be, right, because my life is empty without "jehovah" and the organisation.. but i just got a job at one of the best theme parks in the world, which is so what i want to do, and it's the first permanent job i've had since i lost my government job in 2012!.
the job pays minimum wage but i don't care because working in tourism and entertainment is what i want to do!
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transhuman68
Excellent! You deserve some good luck after all you have been through.
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Contemplating a Major Life Change.
by Joe Grundy innever was a jw, but been here long enough to have made some friends and respect opinions.. retired in 2004, lived in cyprus 2005-2010. back here in wales since then.. just back from a holiday in france (most recent of many).
love the country, the lifestyle, can get by in the language.. just seen an advert for a country estate (british-owned) they want someone to live on site, do a bit of handyman stuff, etc., look after (mainly brit) holiday visitors in return for zero rent (only utitlties).
family would be abe to come and stay for free.
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transhuman68
Well, you have probably watched enough episodes of 'Allo 'Allo to know what to expect... as long as you are covered for hospital & all other medical expenses in a worst-case scenario then you are good to go. My brother & his gf really wanted to live in France, but but there is no reciprocal medical scheme with Australia, so that was too risky. I guess it is different with the U.K. though...
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What does money represent to YOU ?
by new hope and happiness infor example does money represent to you power, love, joy and much more or does money represent to you feelings of worry, guilt, anger, sadness.. for myself i have always enjoyed living largely on little, and i can appreciate that the best things in life are free.
having said that i am glad i have been fortunate and sensible enough with money to never have exsperienced the anxiety of debt.
and it may sound silly but i dont think winning it big on the lottery would improve the quality of my life nor my family.
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transhuman68
LOL, good advice from the OP. Over a lifetime, property probably is the best & safest investment. I threw away my chance to make money- to become a redneck/hippy; but even being a hippy costs money these days and I think that as I get older, not only is it harder physically to do everything myself but mentally it's increasingly a drag as well. Driving a clunker and fixing things myself isn't too bad, but having money to throw at an unsolvable problem is a good feeling too. Sometimes I wish I wasn't such a socialist... in a capitalist society.
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Who is the biggest Loser JW you have known
by Clambake init seems every cong seems to have some guy who is 35 and never had a job or moved out of mom and dads basement.. i knew a guy who just hand out magazines at work so he would get eventually fired and could sleep in till noon everyday.
of course his elder father though he was a real matyr cause he kept losing jobs for jehovah.
i have an electrican friend who apprenticed some jw kid till he got his ticket and he quit him to pioneering.
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transhuman68
Probably me, lol. I keep finding all these books about god & religion that I should have read 20 years ago that would have helped me to de-tox from the JWs; instead I've been the typical 'ex-jw gone wild', and never really got my act together. Very silly.