Posts by wannabefree

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2014 DC Release (Unofficial Rumors)

by WatchTower87 in

mi first prophecy:.

friday afternoon: 4:20 teach your children to love gods kingdom!

new book/brochure for children based on the articles "teach your children" (appeared in watchtower public edition).

wannabefree

Organization books have never been released at conventions.

I'm pretty sure the current one was ...

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Who Appoints the Elders, BOE's, CO's or Holy Spirit?

by outinthemeadows in

first it was the holy spirit that appointed elders, then they began abusing children, so then they had to say its the body of elders that appoint elders.

then they abuse even more children and now they are claiming its the co's fault.

who actually does appoint the elders and ministerial servants?

As far as the Organization goes, I am sure they still consider this as "spirit appointed". But they mean this more in the sense of the arrangement itself. God's Organization is spirit directed (or so they say) and therefore, the arrangements within the Organization or considered to be directed by holy spirit. If a man is meeting the scriptural qualifications for an overseer as set out in the Bible (considered to be spirit directed), then it is said that he is appointed by holy spirit. Of course, there is a margin of error due to imperfect men being involved in the decision making. The appointment change isn't CO's appointing elders, its CO's, as representatives of the Governing Body, making the decision based on the recommedation of the elder body of the congregation. The only change is that the CO no longer needs Headquarters rubber stamp of approval, the CO has been given the ability to make the final decsion.

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Quick! Help Needed for TTATT!!!

by HeyThere in

jw
friends

my husband is actually asking me questions about the governing body saying they are the mouthpiece of jehovah and the whole jesus invisible rulership in 1914 etc.

i am looking up stuff now to show him but if you have any proof, qotes, etc.

to help me wake up my husband please send to me now asap!.

wannabefree

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/faithful-discreet-slave.php

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/governing-body.php

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

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Surprising how WBTS became EXACTLY what Russell was against.

by Fernando in

*** jv chap.

15 p. 205 development of the organization structure ***.

however, brother russell emphasized that they were not attempting to set up an earthly organization.

wannabefree

... and that's why they threw him under the bus by taking away his FDS status. Anything he said or did may have been misguided, no need to think that anything he said was Spirit Directed ™.

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My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...

by Faithful Witness in

she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.

i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.

this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.

wannabefree

"... it really seems like the JW's keep appearing all around me ..."

You do know that this is evidence that God wants you to be a JW ... don't you? The angels must be directing them to you.

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Looking at the McDonald's Real Estate Model

by OnTheWayOut in

when you think of mcdonalds (mcd), you typically think of the worlds biggest hamburger distributor, but they are also the worlds biggest toy distributor with their happy meals.

mcd also has one of the world's best real estate portfolios.

mcd owns much of the best commercial property all over the world.. mcd earns revenue as an investor in properties, a franchiser of restaurants, and an operator of restaurants.

wannabefree

Changes made by internal new light, claiming outside influence had nothing to do with it.

GB "we changed the generation teaching (again), not because we had to due to any kind of failure of previous understanding, because we were enlightened by God"

MCD "we stopped using pink slime in our meat, not because anybody exposed us for using this crud and the public objected, we wanted to bring our global efforts into alignment"

http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-is-changing-its-burger-recipe-to-take-the-pink-slime-out-of-its-meat-2012-1

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Comstock Sign Systems!

by Atlantis in

comstock sign systems .

http://www.comstocksigns.com/files/kingdom-hall-signs.pdf .

.. petra.

wannabefree

Luke 12:1 Watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

*** w97 3/15 p. 18 par. 5 Let Discernment Safeguard You ***
If we were to use spiritual relationships to promote any sort of commercialism, would this not show at least some lack of appreciation for spiritual values? Congregational connections should never be exploited for financial gain.

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Feeling disloyal

by stirred but not shaken in

i've been visiting here for about a year or so, but didn't really feel compelled to participate other than reading the various posts that interested me.. there's been that uncomfortable feeling of being disloyal to god, the organization, many friends and relatives.. i've been associated since birth.

after 65 + years of service within this organization and actually enjoying that time, it troubled me to find myself wanting to express feelings that were contrary to all that time of "faithfulness".

those years were filled with progressive "privileges and responsibilities" even at a high level, and there was considerable success in our evangelizing activity.

wannabefree

Welcome. You have quite a history with the Organization. I look forward to your participation.

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BOE Letter Regarding Branch Visit

by pixel in

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: branch visit in november 2014. dear brothers:.

in our letter dated february 19, 2014, to all congregations in the united states branch ter- ritory, you were informed of a special weekend program to be held on saturday, november 8, 2014, and sunday, november 9, 2014. this program is in connection with the branch visit scheduled for the united states and will be broadcast to locations throughout the branch territory.

we are pleased to inform you of some of these arrangements.. since the goal is to allow as many as possible the opportunity to benefit from this branch visit program, provision will be made to allow any kingdom hall properly equipped to receive the broadcast.

wannabefree

Thanks for posting.

They keep talking about the 100 years...

I guess they feel they are better off owning the elephant in the room rather than ignoring it.

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They are i- Pad Nutty Now

by Poztate in

so many at my wife's hall have rushed to buy i-pads,androids etc for use in servicetm and at the hall.. most know little or nothing about how to use them but have joined the stampede to jw.org tm and the reinvention of the wtbts.. it prompted one elder at my wife's hall to have a seminar at his house to explain how to use them in service and at the hall.. how exciting.... one 80 year old pioneer woman will be there with her new toy.. as a distraction it seems to be working quite well.

no need to worry about 1914 or other issues.. they are all nuts and getting nuttier....

wannabefree

I just thought about something. What happens when the battery goes dead at the meeting? Have they addressed this? Just wondered because my wife studied on her pad and forgot to plug it in last night to charge. I told her she'll have to sit against the wall near an outlet.