Posts by Cagefighter

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IMPROMPTU APOSTAFEST in DFW area this Sunday Feb 24 1pm

by Terry in

jw
friends

sorry for the late notice.. this is an informal get together.

barbecue and beverages guaranteed.

all else you bring yourself.. .

Dear Chichi89

by Aussie Oz in

jw
friends

it looks like you are in the first stages of waking up.. you have been shocked to the core by getting disfellowshipped, what for does not really matter here.

you came to voice your feelings then die, you have voiced the feelings and then hung in there.

i am sure many are very proud of you for that, i am.. now, your thoughts of survival are turned towards your loved one, will it work?, ''i'm a jw and he is not''.... fisrt up, you are now, not a jehovah's witness.

Cagefighter

This should be a PM

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Tim Tebow to address Anti-Gay Anti-Semetic Mega Church

by designs in

quarterback tim tebow is scheduled to address the 11,000 member first baptist dallas congregation april 28th.

first baptist dallas and its outspoken pastor robert jeffries in recent times have called islam and mormonism coming from the 'pits of hell' and you can't be 'saved being a jew', although he clarified that being a jew is not the same type of hereticalness as being a mormon.....huh?.

pastor jeffries called the election of obama 'the rise of the anti-christ'.

Cagefighter

@Berengaria - I can tell you, but I can't make you understand.

For the rest- I guess yall really think the government should tell people what to believe if it really offends your sensibilities? You do realize this is a free county and if a "church" wanted to make child molestation (something I think we all find absolutely disgusting) as a part of their doctrine that is legal. In fact, they could even assemble on their own property and speak about their love of child molestation in meetings and services with their other members.

Now, the second one of them touches a child or aids another in doing so, it's straight to jail. Do I find it regrettable that someone would advocate something I find so wrong, sure. But, I also sleep well knowing their right to do so, is the same right that allows me to speak against it.

My point is, instead of trying to take away all our rights maybe some of you should spend more time either advocating for your cause somewhere besides the internet or work on amending the constitution to only allow freedom for those that don't hurt your feelings. Because these attacks against a speech that has yet to be given and people that you claim to know their hearts but do not is just plain cowardly.

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My wife just told me to move out...

by nolongerconfused in

because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.

she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.

.

Cagefighter

Consult a divorce attorney, BEFORE you move out. I would lean towards giving her space, but not moving out of the house. Who brings home the bread?

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Tim Tebow to address Anti-Gay Anti-Semetic Mega Church

by designs in

quarterback tim tebow is scheduled to address the 11,000 member first baptist dallas congregation april 28th.

first baptist dallas and its outspoken pastor robert jeffries in recent times have called islam and mormonism coming from the 'pits of hell' and you can't be 'saved being a jew', although he clarified that being a jew is not the same type of hereticalness as being a mormon.....huh?.

pastor jeffries called the election of obama 'the rise of the anti-christ'.

Cagefighter

@Berengaria - Uhhh... that is English. You might want to put down the Bon Bons and turn down Maddow and start at page one of this thread. It will take a while because you will actually have to read and think. It should be a good change for you from throwing posters in a box and screaming RACIST, HOMOPHOBE, or waiting on your buddy Bizzybee and taking about male sexual organs.

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Lars: Can we examine your Messiah qualifications ?

by mP in

hi lars,.

if you want to claim your the messiah, thats fine but first we must examine the facts and ask a few basic questions.

i am of course accepting your word as honest.. i think everybody is well aware that the messiah will come thru david.

Cagefighter

Well then bump the thread he was claiming to be the Messiah on, or wait for him to create a thread. No need to antagonize someone who might be suffering from delusions with a new thread calling him out.

Let's examine this.

You are either anatgonizing someone mentally unstable that needs help

or

Blaspheming the Son of God

Sounds like a lose-lose to me.

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Tim Tebow to address Anti-Gay Anti-Semetic Mega Church

by designs in

quarterback tim tebow is scheduled to address the 11,000 member first baptist dallas congregation april 28th.

first baptist dallas and its outspoken pastor robert jeffries in recent times have called islam and mormonism coming from the 'pits of hell' and you can't be 'saved being a jew', although he clarified that being a jew is not the same type of hereticalness as being a mormon.....huh?.

pastor jeffries called the election of obama 'the rise of the anti-christ'.

Cagefighter

@Stillthinking- you summed up my argument well. Yes, people have the right to be as ignorant, bigoted, and plain stupid as they want to be. A lot of people on the left like weilding the poo-poo cannon right now, but they don't realize that if they got their way all it takes is another election and someone would be shutting them down if the other party wins. For the record, I defended the left's right to speech during the previous age when the wind was blowing from the other direction and we were all holding hands, wrapped in the flag, singing God Bless America on the capital.

This is ridiculous and childish. Yall have to use more of your brains than this! Just remember every battle needs morons to jump in front of machine guns on the front lines and generals way back to give the orders. Where are you in the fight?

I haven't defened Tebow's speech first of all because it hasn't been given.

Second, I don't defend Dr. Jefferies only his right to speech, religion, and assembly. The second he crosses the line, lock him up.

Something really odd is going on with some of you. Do you really think you can control people's thoughts. Not everyone needs to be liked. Some people really do believe in the Bible, God, etc.. regardless of your thoughts about it. Do they not deserve respect?

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Lars: Can we examine your Messiah qualifications ?

by mP in

hi lars,.

if you want to claim your the messiah, thats fine but first we must examine the facts and ask a few basic questions.

i am of course accepting your word as honest.. i think everybody is well aware that the messiah will come thru david.

Cagefighter

Come on people let's not attack people directly like this.

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Has anyone heard anything about Elders being a separate entity and WTS not helping them in court cases legally?

by Newly Enlightened in

i just heard a rumor and trying to verify it.

a current jw just told us that the elder's are now a separate entity and that when brought into court hearings and they try to use the 'clergy confidentiality clause' that the wtbt$ backs off and says the elders are their own separate entity.. anyone heard anything like this?.

Cagefighter

I don't know for sure, but I would second Jeff T's sentiment. Basically the WTBS considers it self a franchiser like McDonald's. They just supply the financing, materials, supplies, general operational procedures, etc... The individual restaurant would be owned by a Franchisee (the congo) and they are responsible for the deeds of their manager (elders).

Dang, that was a pretty good analogy... :)

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Tim Tebow to address Anti-Gay Anti-Semetic Mega Church

by designs in

quarterback tim tebow is scheduled to address the 11,000 member first baptist dallas congregation april 28th.

first baptist dallas and its outspoken pastor robert jeffries in recent times have called islam and mormonism coming from the 'pits of hell' and you can't be 'saved being a jew', although he clarified that being a jew is not the same type of hereticalness as being a mormon.....huh?.

pastor jeffries called the election of obama 'the rise of the anti-christ'.

Cagefighter

Well it seems to me you two refuse to see that your beliefs our just as subjective as theirs. All due respect, but I think some people over value their own opinions. It seems that it really makes some people lose a lot of sleep that someone might hold an opinion that is "wrong" and has the guts to be open and honest about it. God forbid, they get together with some other people that feel the same way, hold hands, sing some silly songs, and pray to an imaginary friend.

One man sees a self-righteous jerk and another man sees a person that sticks to their beliefs and is honest. Would you prefer that they disagreed with homosexuality and said nothing or just whispered their beliefs in the safe ears? I don't think you can have it both ways.

I feel like an observer seeing two schitzophrenic people fighting. Both thinks the other one is the devil when they are really just another person with a separate delusion. That is what I think when I see the progressives go after the religious right in this hypocritical manner.