There is no gray area about the scriptures I quoted. They beyond a doubt were talking about a global flood.
Zechariah,
Two Thousand years you say? How do you know? The verse that sets the context for this event does not agree. It is describing a short period of time during the days of Noah that fits this description shown:
:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And this word earth that you insist proves that the entire planet was populated simply means:
1) ground, land
1a) ground (as general, tilled, yielding sustenance)
1b) piece of ground, a specific plot of land
1c) earth substance (for building or constructing)
1d) ground as earths visible surface
1e) land, territory, country
1f) whole inhabited earth
1g) city in Naphtali
So if only a few hundred miles are inhabited, that is all the earth. Or simply the territory or specific plot of land on which the event takes place represents all the earth. So where is your proof? What makes you think the long lives that men lived includes long periods of childbearing as well with a large population boom? Noah lived about 600 years before the flood and had only three sons during all that time. Now that is a fact. So when they entered into the ark his entire family consisted of just a few people and no children. No population boom as you suggest.
Genesis 7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
Men only began to multiply in fact during the time under discussion as shown by the text. Now this is proof but what you say is not. So how do you arrive at your conclusions? So far all you offer is your insistence not proofs that do not even agree with the meanings of the words used for such proof.
Then you say: Your reasoning abilities are seriously lacking if you don't believe the earth was fully populated by the time of the flood.
Attack me? Well ok go ahead that is not a problem but you must prove your point. What was the population of the earth during the flood? Do you know the answer and how exactly did you derive your figures? Were is your proof that the planet was inhabited as you say here?
Now I found this comment of yours interesting: Plus you had fallen angels and their supernatural offspring capable of living even longer. Each one of such men were capable of fathering a whole city of people by the time of the flood.
What scripture did you get this from or did you make it up yourself? After all opinions do not count in such discussions since everyone has one. And what makes you think that this makes any difference? Could not such cities be in the same general area? All this means nothing so far.
And look at this comment of yours where you agree with my lack of reasoning abilities: What you said about the sons of Noah spreading out over the earth you are correct on. The Bible was not implying that at the time of that scriptures writing the earth was fully populated. It only indicated that the process of fully populating the earth had begun. It was not the same thing said about the earth prior to the flood.
Well the scripture that I used above does not agree. It said: And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, which scriptural fact does not support your conclusion. So how did you arrive at your statement? Do you have scriptural proof to prove it or is it simply a guess on your part that you cannot support by facts? Please provide the facts, the proofs needed to support your statements and show them clearly so that we do not have to assume what you mean.
Joseph
Edited by - JosephMalik on 13 November 2002 1:5:48