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  ATTENTION W.T.B.T.S

  by zev in

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  we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.

  we want you to change the name of your organization.

  we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.

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  josephus

  tryiing to distingquish between religion and cults is a waste of time.

  ALL organisations display some cult-like traits.

  be they in buisness or in religion. to say one is a cult and another is not is impossible.

  jws MIGHT be a cult, just like catholics and loads of others.

  i certainly harbour a resentment for them, but my opinion does not make it so.

  i put things in caps because i am too lazy to learn to use italics.

  yes they are rich, but again this doesnt prove them to be bad.

  its fine to demand change, but its another to gullibly accept all the bs people say about jws.

  you demonise every decision the gb make and every watchtower written with no regard for the fact that

  that they are probably just old guys with problems they cant begin to solve.

  Ray franz managed to leave with no bitterness. he believes much that is written in the mags is good

  and usefull for cristians.

  why not try and be a little more like him.

  untill the gb try to do a jim jones with thier members i will believe there is some

  good in them.

  jo
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  ATTENTION W.T.B.T.S

  by zev in

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  2. friends

  we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.

  we want you to change the name of your organization.

  we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.

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  josephus

  WHOOOOAH BOY

  save that hurling for an insignifigant little religion with no influence and less members every year.

  Can you think of any religions like that ?

  my point is you guys are using nukes to crack the nut that is the wtbts.

  josephus
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  ATTENTION W.T.B.T.S

  by zev in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.

  we want you to change the name of your organization.

  we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.

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  josephus

  YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANW.

  here we go again. lets hurl abuse at this tiny little org, while all the while ignoring
  the HUGE groups who do far worse things.

  Catholic nums were implicated in the murders of ruwandins (spelt wrong).

  but do we hear people cursing the pope NO.

  THE FACTS ARE SIMPLE.

  the wtbts are wrong.

  BUT they are not worse than many others groups, and are better than lots all over the world.

  GET ON WITH LIFE.

  or if you must, attack all religion.

  stop beleiving every bad thing you read about jws.

  if i wrote an article telling you guys the elders were into satanic child abuse you would all beleive me.

  SADLY MANY PEOPLE LIE about the wtbts, and you guys only help them with your fake rage.

  i saw a posting the other day where someone was "giving the wtbts fair warning" if they visited him.

  YEEH RIGHT. they are reading hisr post and recording it.

  some of you have the jws blown out of all proportion.

  josephus
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  Any good times?

  by tattoogrl333 in

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  just wondering if there were any positives to being a jw.

  i have read most of the posts and see that a lot of people were jw for years and years and was thinking that not all that time could things have been bad?

  oh and somewhere in gen. it is supposed to state that we are living in the 7th day now????

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  josephus

  ah yes farkel is right i do drink a lot.

  however as in any club there will be good times, and bad.

  you will enjoy beleiving you are better and more knowledgable than others.

  you will enjoy gossiping, and bitching.

  you will LOVE putting everything off because of thinking the END IS NEAR.

  Sadly the clud will eventually make you pay dues, and that sucks.

  your life will be in the hands of the elders. they say thats not so, but wait , and see how youll have to ask their opinion about everything you do.

  i was and am a great chess player and was ADVISED to give it up to concentrate on spiritual things.

  anyway if you go ahead good luck. if not try join a pub quiz team. youll get the same fun without the guilt about getting drunk.
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  Canadians

  by Defender in

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  i see that a lot of posters and possibly lurkers are from canada.. can you please mention briefly what part of canada you're from.

  maybe some of us can get together.. i'll start; i am in vancouver.

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  josephus

  im moving to toronto in september.

  look for me playing chess on young street, beside sam the record man.

  josephus

  soon to be expatirish
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  ARENT WE ALL A BIT BITTER?

  by josephus in

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  i cant help but think some of you guys are just tooooo angry for your past hurts.. weve all got terrible stories which can make us cry, but whats the motivation for such bitterness ?.

  some people search out pervets, seemingly to lay these scumbags and their faults at the societys door.. others try to use thier bad times as an excuse to rubbish the entire religion.. i am not saying that jws are great, or that the society is perfect or undeserving of punishment.. but why are we not trying to even up the good points of the religion.. no smoking, no drugs, no abortion, on and on, and on.. and then try to remember the good times you all had at the meetings.

  the laughs and the help you gave, and received.

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  josephus

  i cant help but think some of you guys are just TOOOOO angry for your past hurts.

  weve all got terrible stories which can make us cry, but whats the motivation for such bitterness ?

  some people search out pervets, seemingly to lay these scumbags and their faults at the societys door.

  others try to use thier bad times as an excuse to rubbish the entire religion.

  I AM NOT SAYING that jws are great, or that the society is perfect or undeserving of punishment.

  but why are we not trying to even up the GOOD POINTS of the religion.

  NO SMOKING, NO DRUGS, NO ABORTION, ON AND ON, AND ON.

  and then try to remember the GOOD times you all had at the meetings. the laughs and the help you gave, and received
  from others.

  ALL religions are off the mark. but why arent you trying to dissuade people from joining them.

  remember catholics ? the inquisition ? all the wars, all the hate, and we waste time trying to destroy an
  insigniffagant religion which does a lot of good, as well as bad.

  i just dont get you guys. ive had a terribvle time as a witness, and i will never sing because people have been disspirited and left religion.

  jo
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  Who are these elders???

  by freakshow in

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  having only started to study with a jw she has yet to inform me of these elders, the book she gave me says a little, but after reading this board i see there is more i have yet to learn.

  who are these elders?

  i'm picturing a bunch of old men in velvet purple robes sitting around a circular table.

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  josephus

  elders are just men.

  some are good.

  some are bad.

  they generally mean well, just like everybody else in the world.

  sadly they do have a legaslative role, and therefore if you join jws you ARE liable to answer to them
  for your actions, regardless of the matters involved.

  they dont realize the power they have. the ones that do are the REALLY danderous ones.

  good luck.

  josephus
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  moving

  by josephus in

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  i am planning to move shortly.

  this raises an important question for me.. should i make freinds with the local jws, or try to stand on my own.

  i am going about 3500 miles away,.

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  josephus

  oh and if anybody could give me thier thoughts on the Canadian witnessess, and how holy i will have to be to be acceptable to them, id be gratefull

  jo
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  moving

  by josephus in

  1. jw
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  i am planning to move shortly.

  this raises an important question for me.. should i make freinds with the local jws, or try to stand on my own.

  i am going about 3500 miles away,.

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  josephus

  i am planning to move shortly. this raises an important question for me.

  should i make freinds with the local jws, or try to stand on my own. i am going about 3500 miles away,
  so this is quite a tough choice.

  i see it this way.

  i have spent my life in the org, and so have more in commen, for better or worse than strangers.

  surely then i will more likely have a better start with the people im used too.

  your thoughts are sought

  josephus
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  So...?

  by zev in

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  if the borg don't have the truth....who does?.

  a question i've been pondering since learning of the deceiptfull ways of the borg.

  once one has the "knowledge" of good and bad, as it were, that the borg are/have lied to its followers, been deceiptfull, misused others quotations to suit thier purpose, and misapplied them, as so very well brought to us by maximus{which by the way, max, have you posted your story anywhere on the forum?

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  josephus

  Couldnt agree more.

  "The chruch is where you worship, not what you worship"

  josephus