Posts by Jourles

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Revived beast sick of Unipolar Babylon the Great

by proplog2 in

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today putin accused the united states of making the world a more dangerous place by pursuing policies aimed at making it "one single master".

attacking the concept of a "unipolar" world in which the united states was the sole superpower, he said: "what is a unipolar world?

no matter how we beautify this term it means one single centre of power, one single centre of force and one single master.".

Jourles

What happens when we(everyone on this board) all die from natural causes, 200 years pass by, our great, great, great, great grandchildren will be living on this earth and the question of who is the KotN, Wild Beast, et al, is still lingering in the air?

Everyone living during THEIR generation feels that the end of the world will happen while they are still alive. I've come to realize the fact that nothing the WTS has taught me(or any other apocalyptic group which says the end is just around the corner) in the past will come true during my lifetime, if ever. I'm just a guy who happened to be born in 1973 in San Diego, CA and is now living in Lansing, Michigan 34 years later. If I stay pretty healthy up into my 70's and 80's, I'll be happy. If there is some deity out there that has other plans for the earth before I die, then so be it.

But I do agree with Putin over the fact that the USA's military presence is making the world less safe. How many other countries have multi-national military bases on par with the USA? And why does the USA feel they need to be the ~~bully in the schoolyard~~ world police? Global domination by one single country makes me sick - especially when I am a citizen of that country and am associated with it wherever I go internationally.

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2008 Changes to the Watchtowers

by Inquisitor in

i don't know if someone else has already posted about this.

i tried looking a page or two back in this section, but didn't find any thread on this news.

if someone has, pls add the link in this thread.. no, the watchtowers aren't gonna be monthly like the awake, but apparently the w mags will be designed in this way:.

Jourles

Whenever the changes go into effect, we will be able to tell by the drastic drop in published numbers(inside the front cover). One of the WT's will still have ~32 million printed, while the other will have ~6-8 million copies printed.

So now, which KM is going to make this announcement? Or will they spill it first at the DC's? Nah, it'll probably just be in a KM.

I'm curious to know if these cuts stem from a single cashflow savings plan(spread out over a few years), or if they are implementing these cuts as the need arises? The best(for us) would be that they are cutting as the need arises. This would show that they are severely winding down in operations and are losing money left and right. But if this is part of a single, cost-cutting plan, then its better for them.

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2008 Changes to the Watchtowers

by Inquisitor in

i don't know if someone else has already posted about this.

i tried looking a page or two back in this section, but didn't find any thread on this news.

if someone has, pls add the link in this thread.. no, the watchtowers aren't gonna be monthly like the awake, but apparently the w mags will be designed in this way:.

Jourles

1st of month issue - for public, no study articles, (kinda like Awake??)

It sounds like the Awake is about to go bye-bye.

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new watchtower mag arrangement

by shadowofbathory in

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the latest from brooklyn ( my mate in upper management ) i thought id share.. .

the watchtower is remaining bi monthly.

instead of both monthly offerings sharing same formats there is a change coming into action soon.

Jourles

Since Bethel monitors this board, I would love to know how these cost cutting ideas get pitched to the higher ups. I normally don't brag, but I love to bring this up every now and then when news of the literature getting cut gets out. I think it would be hilarious if someone who was watching the board brought these ideas to the gb's table (from Dec. '04 -- before announcement of Awake scaling back):

Should we cut back on the magazine distribution timeframe? How about combine the WT and Awake into one magazine? Instead of twice a month, how about just once? This alone would cut expenditures on printed materials by almost 50-75%. And the books? Well, we already did away with hardcover and we also cut the physical size of most books to roughly 50% of the older larger ones. Can we take advantage of electronic distribution? Would some witnesses prefer to print out Adobe PDF files of the magazines? Instead of offering the WT and Awakes at the doors, why not switch to using just tracts? Save the magazines for studies and witnesses themselves. Tracts would cost less to produce and effectively carry the same message as the magazines.

Damn you Borg! I want my consultation fee!

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new watchtower mag arrangement

by shadowofbathory in

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friends

the latest from brooklyn ( my mate in upper management ) i thought id share.. .

the watchtower is remaining bi monthly.

instead of both monthly offerings sharing same formats there is a change coming into action soon.

Jourles

Would that mean that they would only print 6 million of the 15th of the month magazine, just enough for all the current JWs?

What is the current amount they print? Over 100 million? Less? Does anybody have a latest mag to see how many go into circulation? But yeah Gill - imagine how much they save if they were to cut back from 100 million copies to ~6 million copies. Probably in the neighborhood of several million dollars, per month.

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new watchtower mag arrangement

by shadowofbathory in

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friends

the latest from brooklyn ( my mate in upper management ) i thought id share.. .

the watchtower is remaining bi monthly.

instead of both monthly offerings sharing same formats there is a change coming into action soon.

Jourles

I just think its so funny that when it comes to scrutinizing their cash flow, we can guess exactly what steps they are going to take before they actually do it. New light my ass.

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new watchtower mag arrangement

by shadowofbathory in

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friends

the latest from brooklyn ( my mate in upper management ) i thought id share.. .

the watchtower is remaining bi monthly.

instead of both monthly offerings sharing same formats there is a change coming into action soon.

Jourles

the 15th of the month edition will be only hardcore study articles, specific info for jw's only and will NOT be offered or distributed to the general public or irregular meeting attendees

If true, it will be just as predicted years ago. One less magazine in the monthly distribution cycle to hand out ~~for a donation~~. I'm guessing if this comes to fruition, the Awake will be the next to go.

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Would the WT club have mandated the prodigal son be shunned?

by LexWatson in

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the prodigal son's father met him out on the road as he approached, put a fine robe around his shoulders and had rings made for him.

they had a big party as he announced "my son has come home!!

" everone knew he had blown his inheritance on liquor and prostitutes.. wouldn't the wt "arrangement" have mandated a comittee meeting to have been held to determine if they felt he was truly repentant and most probably he would have to had a period of time that he was shunned so they could tell the congregation "that situation had been dealt with".

Jourles

The WTS is usually pretty good about covering themselves, but did you notice something in these statements? ---

"While he was yet a long way off, his father caught sight of him and was moved with pity, and he ran and fell upon his neck and tenderly kissed him."

Compare that with:

no doubt has some idea of his son’s repentance by observing his sad, downcast countenance as he returns
the father ran to meet and then accepted his returning son. The father, seeing the lad’s pitiful condition, responded with natural parental concern.
This shows that when a Christian who has become wayward shows genuine repentance , Jehovah will feel pity and tenderly accept that one back.

First of all, the scripture says that the father felt pity as soon as he saw his son while he was yet "a long way off." The father didn't feel pity after running to see his son, but rather, as soon as he caught sight of him. How could anyone judge someone's repentance based on seeing them "a long way off?" No one can. The same could be said of a JC committee waiting for you to show up at the kh. Imagine them waiting on the kh street corner watching for your car. As soon as they see you driving down the road from a quarter mile away, they immediately judge you based on your facial expressions. No JC meeting required. Sound about right? Wouldn't this parallel the Prodigal Son story? Secondly, how many people do you know have cried during their JC meeting to avoid being df'd? Wouldn't that show repentance? Or could they just be faking it? It takes time to watch an individual to see whether or not they return to their prior sinful state rather than immediately judging them within an hour's time. So in this case, the father immediately accepted his son back without waiting for him to prove that he left his former acts of drinking/whoring.

Yep, the WTS definitely has it all ass-backwards. The bible has nothing to do with their df'ing policy. If it did, a party would be held to welcome the erring one back. And the deal about the clapping? I believe this decision was made due to not offend another in the hall if the df'd one did something against another person in the hall. Again, this goes against the PS story. What did Jesus say about the father's other son? Wasn't he pissed because his father held a party? And what did his father tell him? Basically, "suck it up bitch. your brother came home."

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Condolences to Brooke and Da' Bear's fans.......

by AK - Jeff in

i still love ya'...... and so do these guys....... .

smilin' not smilin'.

jeff .

Jourles

I'm surprised Brooke hasn't peeked in here yet and said her trademark phrase:

There's still next year!!

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IF YOU TALK TO THE MEDIA ON BLOOD, FOCUS/GET THIS POINT IN

by skeeter1 in

i've read alot of stories on the sextuplets, and it's great to have the media reporting 'bad' light on the no-blood policy & jws in general.

but, we need to ramp it up.

the media is missing the big story - the fraction lie.

Jourles

Forget about the "fractions." Why not attack them on the banned component front? Almost every child born to jw mothers today feed upon her colostrum which contains a healthy amount of leukocytes, or white blood cells. This is also known as the baby's first immunization. The WTS has always used the reasoning of allowing certain ~~components~~/fractions by way of what is passed naturally from mother to fetus in utero. What they do not acknowledge is that this natural setting of transference of WBC's during breastfeeding is also part of God's way of doing things. If God were to allow a mother to pass WBC's to her baby in a natural setting -- letting her baby intentionally feed upon WBC's!! -- then why would God have a problem with transfusing WBC's?

The WTS will never address WBC's in this setting. Never.