(((Stephanus)))
Please go to the doctor and keep up to date on what medications you need.
Life is too short and too precious.
Joy
Joyzabel
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I Thought I Was a Goner (Again)!
by Stephanus inyesterday afternoon i took the boys for a two-mile or so walk along the beach to stay at my mother's house for the night as sort of a last hoorah for the holidays (school starts back wednesday).
after dinner we went for a further walk of several miles further up the beach and back as a recreational outing in the cool of the evening.
this morning after breakfast i started developing an asthma attack that wasn't responding at all to ventolin and serevent, the two drugs i had with me.
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Ray Franz
by scrubmaster in.
i am sure this has been asked before -- but has anyone here every spoke to ray franz or email him.
if so i would like to email him or call her.
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Joyzabel
"her"??
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modest sunbathers
by MegaDude in.
funny picture.. .
http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~eusher/timidity.html
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Joyzabel
No wonder Chino looks outside for cats on the beach all day long! lol
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JW friends came to visit -- happy ending!
by cruzanheart inthursday afternoon i picked up three friends of ours from england: a dear elderly jw lady (who hates that term) who is headed for 80 faster than she'd like, her son, and her son-in-law.
son hasn't been "in" the witnesses for years and years and years -- drifted out -- and sil is an elder.
i was nervous.
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Joyzabel
((((Nina))))
good deal that you still have your friends.
I think there is a great amount of thinking going on with "thinking" JWs. They see the lack of love and scratch their heads. They may still be in a "wait and see" attitude, but at least they are not dropping their friends.
Good for you & Chris.
Joy
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What do you believe in?
by Joysome ini mean when it comes to life, death, god, the universe etc.
have you gone and learned about other religions.
what do you feel is the purpose of life?
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Joyzabel
Welcome to the board, Joysome.
Good question, one that will take you many places if you decide to look for many answers. Enjoy!
Joy
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #80
by ozziepost inso how's this weekend going for you?
mrs ozzie and i have just enjoyed an indian curry and are feeling glowing!
we didn't even have a shiraz!!
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Joyzabel
I always thought our free home bible study program was "our" charity!
Well!! it was my precious time I was spending with people so they could learn "da troof"
*lauging* charitey, sheeesh. The JW's don't know what real love or charity means.
Joy
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My heart is ripped out !!
by Puternut ini am absolutly miserable !.
i am a newbie here, some of you have seen my posts.
and for those of you, who are old timers, this is no news to you.
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Joyzabel
Peternut,
I'm glad you can see the good responses in this thread (and ignore the dimwitted comments)
I would like to comment on this statement: "But yet I don't have all the answers, especially in my case, since I am freshly out of the organization." We came from an organization that taught us all the answers. Now we find out it was an illusion and we feel lost. Yes, we thought we had certainty about everything so the feeling of uncertainty can be uncomfortable until you realize that NO ONE has any answers. There is a lot of searching going on and thus the idea of a journey.
Now take the freedom you have, which at first doesn't feel like freedom but your foundation has been demolished underneath you, and start inquring about things, be inquisitive and look at the world as a whole new place to be.
When hubby & I were opening our eyes, we first looked at Galations and Romans in the old Living Bible. From there you can see that the WTBT puts itself into the place of mediator with God. So when that mediator turns out to be false, at least in reading the bible you'll see that, Jesus and not any organization is the mediator. That helped me in the transition of standing on my own two feet.
Then when you are ready, as you progress in your questioning everything you can look at what else may have been fairytales that we used to believe in.
Just a thought. Take it slow. I wanted at first to have all the answers, since my security was knocked away from me. But all I can say is give yourself time. Be patient with yourself and be humble. (the "higher" we were, the greater the fall) And several years from now you'll look back at this crisis period as an adjustment and you'll be surprised how much you grow in knowledge and love.
Joy
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Inane question of the year...so far.
by meat pie inhello everyone, this question was asked of me by a 'tame' jw today, 'have you thought of starting smoking?'.
the question was put as if now that i don't go to meetings any more, i'd want to take up smoking!
as i'm middle-aged and packed in the fags yonks ago, it was especially stupid.my reply was, 'good god no, why would i?'.
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Joyzabel
LOL Meaty!! *shaking head* It really is amazing what JW's thinks happen when one leaves their precious "nest".
Good to see ya, sweetie! How are things up in north where you are at!
Sorry to have missed you at the last BBQ E-man put on. Maybe another year. How's your son doing with his baseball? (I know, he's not playing in the dead of winter)
Hugs to you,
Joy
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My heart is ripped out !!
by Puternut ini am absolutly miserable !.
i am a newbie here, some of you have seen my posts.
and for those of you, who are old timers, this is no news to you.
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Joyzabel
OK, one more thought (Dave brought it to mind, thanks)
Allow yourself time to grieve.
Yes grieve.
The stages of grief are:
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
When you get stuck in one stage (for years) or you keep going back into a stage instead of moving forward, seek professional help.
It takes a long time to go through the grief process. Especially when you encounter things that were so routine/familar that now you have to change. Embrace each stage and realize that you are healing yourself.
Hang in there, it will get better.
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My heart is ripped out !!
by Puternut ini am absolutly miserable !.
i am a newbie here, some of you have seen my posts.
and for those of you, who are old timers, this is no news to you.
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Joyzabel
If you haven't already read these books, I recommend them:
Crisis of Concscience Raymond Franz
In Search of Christian Freedom Raymond Franz
The Road Less Traveled M. Scott Peck, M.D.
The People of the Lie M. Scott Peck, M.D. (any of his books are good)
The 2 that Carl Olof Jonnson has written. Very good at documenting history.
Apcolypse Delayed James Penton
True Beliver Eric Hoffer
Combatting Mind Control Steve Hassen
hmmmm.....will add more as I remember them.