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  Gender Lines

  by Mysterygirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have just finished reading a book called gender outlaw.

  in this book the righter has an opion that gender is based on "moden life" rather then the "human form", ie do you look, act, talk and have the package of a male or female in your current state and even life upbringing - or were we born male or female and that is that.. if we look, act and talk and even have the package of the gender that we insist that we are, does that mean we are male or female ( i say that i am a woman, i have the package of a woman, i look like a woman and i talk like a woman, my drives licence and birth certificate say that im a woman) so what am i ???.

  the reason that i am asking this is, i had a visit from a elder (that i have never meet before)and he was talking about my transexuality and the reason i was dfs.

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  Joyzabel

  MG,

  Maybe he views all people as equal and does not discriminate genders> If this is the case then why does the Org put such a high piorety over male and females

  it's a male dominated society!
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  Gender Lines

  by Mysterygirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have just finished reading a book called gender outlaw.

  in this book the righter has an opion that gender is based on "moden life" rather then the "human form", ie do you look, act, talk and have the package of a male or female in your current state and even life upbringing - or were we born male or female and that is that.. if we look, act and talk and even have the package of the gender that we insist that we are, does that mean we are male or female ( i say that i am a woman, i have the package of a woman, i look like a woman and i talk like a woman, my drives licence and birth certificate say that im a woman) so what am i ???.

  the reason that i am asking this is, i had a visit from a elder (that i have never meet before)and he was talking about my transexuality and the reason i was dfs.

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  Joyzabel

  MysteryGirl,

  (welcome to the board)

  why do you rely on the opinion of non-medical people who barely have a high-school education?

  Joy
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  They will tell lies about you.

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on a wet afternoon, there's nothing to do but give advice!

  many readers of this board (otherwise known as "lurkers") may have been drawn to a position where their doubts have culminated in a desire to leave the "false truth" of the wts.. are you one of those?

  downunder we have some (many?

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  Joyzabel

  Amen, Brother Ozzie.

  And what do scared, "loyal" JW's want to think? They want to believe the lies. It makes it easier to hate the ones who left woke up.

  Hugs,

  Joy
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  Remember Dateline??

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm trying to get some comments that active jehovah's witnesses may have heard after dateline aired back on may 28, 2002.

  do you remember any comments made about the dateline program either made from the platform at the kingdom hall, or in private conversations with other jw's?

  how were the people who where on dateline viewed in your area, especially at the kingdom hall or by other jws?

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  Joyzabel

  LOL Valis,

  what are implying???

  sorry to hear about your mom. Typical

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  Remember Dateline??

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm trying to get some comments that active jehovah's witnesses may have heard after dateline aired back on may 28, 2002.

  do you remember any comments made about the dateline program either made from the platform at the kingdom hall, or in private conversations with other jw's?

  how were the people who where on dateline viewed in your area, especially at the kingdom hall or by other jws?

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  Joyzabel

  Thank you for the clarification, German JW.

  I understand what you are saying now.

  BTW, your english is very good.

  J
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  Remember Dateline??

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm trying to get some comments that active jehovah's witnesses may have heard after dateline aired back on may 28, 2002.

  do you remember any comments made about the dateline program either made from the platform at the kingdom hall, or in private conversations with other jw's?

  how were the people who where on dateline viewed in your area, especially at the kingdom hall or by other jws?

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  Joyzabel

  German JW,

  I don't understand what you mean by this.

  "But I think your quote is out-of-the-transcript. I do not think that this was done without the approval of the District Overseer"

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  Remember Dateline??

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm trying to get some comments that active jehovah's witnesses may have heard after dateline aired back on may 28, 2002.

  do you remember any comments made about the dateline program either made from the platform at the kingdom hall, or in private conversations with other jw's?

  how were the people who where on dateline viewed in your area, especially at the kingdom hall or by other jws?

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  Joyzabel

  Thank you Nosferatu, I forgot about that thread. Thanks!

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  Remember Dateline??

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm trying to get some comments that active jehovah's witnesses may have heard after dateline aired back on may 28, 2002.

  do you remember any comments made about the dateline program either made from the platform at the kingdom hall, or in private conversations with other jw's?

  how were the people who where on dateline viewed in your area, especially at the kingdom hall or by other jws?

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  Joyzabel

  LT, where did you mother get the idea that it was <gasp> "Apostates"? Had she heard it from somewhere? And did she say where?

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  Remember Dateline??

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm trying to get some comments that active jehovah's witnesses may have heard after dateline aired back on may 28, 2002.

  do you remember any comments made about the dateline program either made from the platform at the kingdom hall, or in private conversations with other jw's?

  how were the people who where on dateline viewed in your area, especially at the kingdom hall or by other jws?

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  Joyzabel

  I'm trying to get some comments that active Jehovah's Witnesses may have heard after Dateline aired back on May 28, 2002. Do you remember any comments made about the Dateline program either made from the platform at the Kingdom Hall, or in private conversations with other JW's? How were the people who where on Dateline viewed in your area, especially at the Kingdom Hall or by other JWs? Either positive, negative or noncommital comments. If you would please share what you remember about the comments of the JWs/xJW either on this thread or privately through my Private Message here on JWD, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Joy
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  Lawsuit FYI

  by avengers in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  suit accuses church official of abuse .

  4 say jehovah's witness church hid crime; .

  man a convicted child molester .

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  Joyzabel

  interesting......the pile gets deeper.

  ty Avenger.