as many long-time posters will know, mrs ozzie and i were very much involved in the preparation and presentation of channel nine's "sunday" program a couple of years ago.
it exposed the covering-up of child abuse within the witness organisation and the subsequent shunning of 'whistle blowers'.. .
the reaction to this program was devastating for the jws in australia; in short time many resigned from the witnesses but the fallout did not stop - it's continued, and we've even seen new posters "sign up" on jwd as a result of that program.. .
Great news, Ozzie.
I hope many more authorities will become involved in protecting abuse victims. And helping the whistle blowers.
Elders need to be aware of how the WT has distanced themselves and allowed the innocent elders who followed WT policy be hung out legally. The cover up is bad enough, but true believing elders who give their all to mother? may find themselves sued.
J
how's this weekend going for you?
stinking hot downunder - and humid too.
really draining weather - y'know what i mean?.
lol Ozzie, I love your weekend polls. At least you make me think about what I used to do robotically.
I think I went through all the answers at one time. (well, not for pretty girls but guys to go out in service with.)
Being a true believer, I did feel I was delievering God's message? but I also was trying to gain privileges. It did look good to have X number of hours, placements, RVs etc. and rank of pioneer?, bethelite? or elder's wife? to help define who I was. *sheesh* (I got lost as a human being, though.)
One of the biggest things that helped wake me up was the observing the treatment of people within that organization and wondering how anyone can justify treating people sometimes and still call themselves "christians".
*getting down off of soapbox*
Have a good weekend.
Joy
as some of you on the board knew i was expecting a baby, i feel i should let you know that things have not worked out for us.. when i went for the 20 week ultrasound scan last thursday, severe problems were found with our baby's internal development.
only one kidney was detected, and it was very enlarged and polycystic.
there was no long term hope for the baby at all; if it survived to full term it could only live for hours at most.
(((Irongal and Grant))))
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Please give yourself plenty of time to grieve (and 3 cycles, if you know what I mean ) then let us have some good news down the road.
Hugs,
Joy
i just registered right now.
i would like to introduce myself.
i am a 30 year old female and not a jw but my mother is so thats how i came by this site.
My Mother loves her religion and her husband more than me
exactly!
You also mentioned feeling manipulated. Good pick-up.
I recommend you get Steve Hassen's books on "Combatting Mind Control"
Also if you want amunition against the WTBTs read Ray Franz's books, "Crisis of Conscience" "In Search of Christian Freedom". Jim Penton makes a nice summary of the JW history in "Apcolypse Delayed"
When you realize you allow her to fill your head with depressing thoughts and you
have the power to counter that BS, then maybe you be free of her silliness. Unfortunately, we cannot make our parents the nurturing people they are suppose to be. But you can nuture yourself and deal with reality not fantacy.
Welcome to the board.
Joy
mike's missing you and has asked me to let you know he has had his operation and is doing fine.
i won't give you all the very earthy details he told me to post!!
anyway - he will be back posting next week and will fill you in with all the details.. regards to you all .
((((Christina))))
thanks for the update. Glad Mike is getting along and on the mend.
I know you are worried about him, but I bet you like having a little peace and quiet!
Hope he gets home in time for the holidays with the family all around him.
Hugs,
Joy
my catholic friend and i were talking the other night about the virgin mary.
she doesn't even believe that she was a virgin and she doesn't believe in the immaculate conception.
if you think about it logically today, if you had a fiance that went to visit relatives for a few months and then came back pregnant and told you it was god's child, would you believe it?
Leolaia said:
I'm going to post a Christmas-themed analysis of this when the holiday draws near.
yeah!! I'll be watching.
Joy
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1) who is on the governing body now?.
2) any idea when they were baptised before or after 1935 ?.
Governing Body
Date of birth
John Barr (b. 1913)
Carey Barber (b. 1905)
Samuel Herd (b. 1935)
Theodore Jaracz (b. 1925)
Steve Lett (b. 1949)
Gerrit Losch (b. 1941)
Guy Pierce (b. 1934)
Albert Schroeder (b. 1911)
David Splane (b. 1944)
Daniel Sydlik (b. 1919)
Don't have info on dates of baptism. Sorry. But what does that matter?
Welcome to the board, Carlito.
Homosexuality is a sin
says who? People trying to control people?
As far as Gay Bethelites go, yep there are plenty.
Please learn to love yourself and learn to distinguish what are man's rules and what the true meaning of love is.
If you need help, seek a counselor who has dealt with other gay people.
Hugs,
Joy (exBethelite)
did anyone watch "the nanny reunion show" on monday night?.
it was hilarious.
i watched that show quite a bit when it was on, but totally missed this one that they talked about and showed clips from.. it seems fran's mother, played by renee taylor (pretty heavy middle aged woman), was having problems with her husband not being romantic with her.
you mean, Mulan, in all those years of faithful D to D you didn't have anyone come to the door nakid???
come on, fess up.
I think its great they joked about it on TV.
we talk it to death.
every subject.
is it really of any benefit to you to let it out here?
((((((Tammy))))))
I thought you sounded awfully pessimistict (not like you) yesterday. Glad it is a new day and you can see some sunshine.
Joy
