Joyzabel

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  Question for Former Elders (Current ones too..we know you are here)

  by XBEHERE in

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  i have been thinking about this for a while and wanted to get some of your thoughts.. how long after you were appointed an elder did it start to dawn on you that this was not the "truth"?

  was being an elder a catalyst to that realization at all?

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  Joyzabel

  I know, I know, not an elder, but just speaking from my experience (elder's wife for 30 years in the borg). No, it was not being an elder that woke us up. But accumulating all the harshness over the years did make me think about what was really important in life. And I think it is how we treat others. Especially the ones down.

  The thing that sealed it for me was reading CoC. It summarrized all the doubts I had and it helped that Ray had been a GB member. He was very honest in his writings.

  I'm sure there will be plenty of elders and xelders that will comment on your topic. Be patient. They'll come.

  Joy
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  Help and advice needed soon , please

  by jules99 in

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  i am looking for some advice to hopefully prevent me going mad.

  my husband (an elder) was disf?d by the jws 8 years ago for having an affair with me and consequently leaving his wife.

  he has 4 grown-up children and 9 grandchildren.

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  Joyzabel

  ((Jules))

  sorry to hear about your situation. Please take the advice of others and help/heal yourself.

  When you are ready there are so many books on the market about whatever you want to believe about life after death. I feel its a personal decision what you believe.

  Hugs,

  Joy
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  Living On the Edge of Uncertainty.

  by Blueblades in

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  there is, for many of us, a moment in life when we make a choice that changes us forever.

  this moment marks a turning point, a threshold of sorts, when we realize that the life we are living is not a reflection of who we really are.. many, including myself, are living on the edge of uncertainty.

  frightening world events, overwhelming amounts of information, even here on the forum, has cause a transformation that changes us as we shift our beliefs from what we once believed was unshakeable.. i now realize that living the life of one of jehovah's witnesses was and is not a reflection of who i really am.once having been secure in the great issues of life as a jw, i now find myself living on the edge of uncertainty when it comes to the great issues of life.

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  Joyzabel

  *sigh*

  yesh, uncertainty. How wonderful a life is when you get comfortable with uncertainty.

  *pfffff* to the box we used to live in. Very confining and false sense of certainty. Boy can I spot phony certainty now and steer clear.
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  I am DA'ed

  by meat pie in

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  last wednesday i got the phone call i had asked for, elder with funereal voice asked me if i had changed my mind.

  so an announcement would be made the next evening.. ' ok ,fine!

  thanks for letting me know!

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  Joyzabel

  well, there you go, Meatpie.

  Turning a lovely situation into a more lovely one. Good for you.
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  Gary The Retard from Howard Stern show is....

  by sf in

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  ...in the jw yahoo chatroom, right now!.

  at first we said, yea sure, you sound like him but get on cam to prove it.. and sure enough, it's gary!.

  he is gonna tell howie about our room.. lee, get yo' ass back in here.. skally

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  Joyzabel

  how did he get access? don't you have to have JW literature to know the answer to whatever question they ask?

  have fun with him
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  truebloom is here to introduce herself

  by truebloom in

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  i just wanted to introduce myself here on this forum.

  i have been lurking here awhile, i really enjoy reading your posts.

  i get so caught up reading i don't have much to add, but give me time.

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  Joyzabel

  *passing a soft, fluffy pillow your way*

  welcome truebloom.

  When you feel comfortable, tell us a little about yourself, if you'd like. We are always nosey politely curious.

  Joy
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  1992 murder conviction is upheld - William Carlson

  by Dogpatch in

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  remember this guy?.

  1992 murder conviction is upheld.

  by barbara bell.

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  Joyzabel

  btw, welcome to the board, wilsadvocate. Take a look around and you'll see this place is filled with xjws, many angry over the abuse they have suffered being a JW and in a cult.

  Also, direct Will to the Silentlambs.com site. He might find others like him.
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  1992 murder conviction is upheld - William Carlson

  by Dogpatch in

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  remember this guy?.

  1992 murder conviction is upheld.

  by barbara bell.

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  Joyzabel

  had Will gotten help to deprogram from the JWs since being imprissoned? That would be very sad if he still thinks it is the truth?.

  No one can judge another. No one fully understands what an individual has gone through.
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  Those that would never miss a meeting or field service no matter what...

  by JH in

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  did you know a few in your congregation that would never miss a meeting, no matter what.

  even if it was 20 below zero or 100 f or if they were sick, they would be there anyways.. these people irritated me, because they wanted to show how good they were.. did you know any like that?

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  Joyzabel

  they wanted to show how good they were

  so........maybe they were just True Believers
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  Defending and Legally Establishing the Truth - Barb Anderson

  by Dogpatch in

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  from barbara anderson:.

  http://www.freeminds.org/women/defendingtruth.htm.

  it appeared in the december 8, 1991 awake!

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  Joyzabel

  yeah!!!

  Go Barbara & Joe