A lot of hard work, even spanning years goes into investigations. Thank you Trey for publishing what you have discovered and thank you Barb & Joe for all the behind the scene investigation you provide also.
Joy
Joyzabel
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Trey Bundy: One Year of Reporting JW Child Abuse - Your comments please!
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://watchtowerdocuments.org/trey-bundy-one-year-of-reporting-jw-child-abuse/.
trey bundy: one year of reporting jw child abuse.
it’s been one year since trey bundy first reported the watchtower’s child abuse problems.. twelve months ago the center for investigative reporting (cir) began publishing information about jehovah’s witnesses and their cover-up of child sexual abuse on their website, reveal.
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"Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"
by Simon inhave you heard that old chestnut?
i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.
they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..
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Joyzabel
talesin,
(in a crackly voice, lifting a crooked finger) ... "Brroootthhhers...."
*covering my ears and running from the auditorium*
😱
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"Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"
by Simon inhave you heard that old chestnut?
i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.
they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..
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Joyzabel
"Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"
I heard Freddie Franz say this at a Gilled graduation back in the spring of 1976. (of course followed by loud clapping from all the drones sitting in the auditorium) I think that's when the foundation began to crack. ;-)
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44 years old and having I.V.F help to have a baby thanks too bastard "this Generation" lies!! Wife wants kids in 2016! My story.
by Witness 007 inas a young witness married couple in the 1990's we knew "this generation" of 1914 did not have long to go!
oh how cute a young pioneer couple we were.
we wont have kids till "afew more years pass" and we are in the new system.
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Joyzabel
Try, if that is what you two want. Fertility drops off after age 40 but a good fertility doc may help.
Yes it is expensive but if you can afford it, then go for it. The oldest first time mother I delivered was 49 years old. She had used donated eggs (harvested from 20+ year old).
In 1976 when I was at bethel and met many branch overseer's wives who were going through menopause and lamenting that they would have had children first before going into full time work if they knew "this system" was going to last as long as it had. That influenced me to change my mind from "waiting until after Armageddon" to leave bethel and have a family. I am so glad I did. Now I have grandchildren, which none are JWs :-)
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Your Jehovah’s Witness Is Showing
by David_Jay insince i just signed up and posted a few times without doing this yet, here is my story..
i think that i became a jehovahs witness because of my immaturity.
i had some quirky personality traits, and i joined finding that i fit in because, as i said to myself: these people get me.
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Joyzabel
Hi David,
“Who cares what I mentally acknowledge to be real or true? It's what I am and how I live that defines me, not a creed or philosophy or ideology that I claim allegiance to that spells out who I am.”
“I think it is best to do good than merely believe in good. All the belief in God won't feed another who is hungry, and that everybody deserves to be treated honorably, with respect, and cared for not on the basis of their creed but on because of the fact that they are fellow humans.”
Great statements!!!!!
Want to start a religion??? (j/king :-), but could make millions ;-) )
But I really want to make this next statement of yours into a bumper sticker!
“My beliefs don't define me. My actions do.”
I love this statement. As JW’s we were always admonished “to do more” but of course the “actions” were silly JW stuff (door to door, talks, bible studies, etc) whereas now we are free to provide real acts of kindness and goodness to our fellow humans.
You are very encouraging in your writing style and with sharing your thoughts. Keep them coming.
Joy
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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?
by stuckinarut2 init's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
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Joyzabel
Cults have their own secret language. That's how you can distiguish who is up to date in a cult.
All those catch phrases make me cringe.
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New anti-spam measures
by Simon inwe've been bombarded by spam a number of times in the last few weeks and last night was the worst yet.
i already built some tools to make removing it easier because i think the longer it stays up, the more it encourages it, but still it's annoying to see and interferes with the operation of the site.
fortunately, we were able to catch and remove it relatively quickly.. i've now implemented and deployed some additional protection measures which i hope will better detect and block it from appearing in the first place.
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Joyzabel
You're the bomb!!
keep on keeping on
Joy *waving at the family!
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Hello, this is my first post
by noralee inhello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.
that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.
that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.
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Joyzabel
Welcome!
"I don't think I´ll ever really be able to forgive myself." If you can't by yourself, then get some counseling. You must forgive yourself to move on. We are all human and need to learn to love ourselves with all our imperfections. (one thing the WTBS didn't teach us)
Be glad you got your family out. Don't look back but embrace what may come in the future.
Joy
"Living well is the best revenge"
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How many visitors do we get ?
by Simon insomeone was asking me in the chatroom about the number of hits the site gets.
here is a brief summary (of what we currently get per week):.
21,000 visitors.
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Joyzabel
Damn!!!! I had to look at when this post was originated and realized you DIDN'T bring the chat room back!
whaaaaaaaaaa I miss the chat room.
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Excellent Book for JW's (Psychological Recovery)
by airborne ini was in the cult for twenty years and da'd in sept. 2014. as time passes i feel that i am ready for more healing.
the fear has passed of being out and i'm never going back to the funny farm.. an excellent book i came across for current and former jw's in the healing process is "exiting the jw cult: a healing handbook" by bonnie zieman.
it's available on amazon kindle for $6.99.
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Joyzabel
Yes, both books are excellent.
I think there is such a long process to deprogramming from any mind control group. I feel sorry for the walk away believers, they feel something is not right but don't understand the full dynamics of leaving such a group. So they never really deprogram but just drift in life they try to make outside of the control group.
Happy reading!
Joy