well, first off, iam new to the forum here, i registered maybe a week ago???
sometime around there, but anyway, i do have an honest question.
i guess a little background about me might be helpful and if not, at least therapeutic.
Welcome!
I'm currently in a similar place, I want to serve God and live according to His word as well. Doing research I've also found doctrinal issues I can't fully understand - blood, 1914, 607, and the new overlapping generation. So I started reading a different Bible translation and found that helpful. I actually feel like I have inner peace reading the Bible. Not sure what to make of that yet, but I've found comfort for now.
another sick jw is finally brought to justice (no thanks to god's chosen ones) after raping and molesting children for four frigging decades.
as per the article below, obviously one of his victims told the elders that they had been molested and obviously the elders did nothing about it.
'sorry, but did you have another eye witness to brother cockerill raping you?
Too bad this wasn't mentioned on Oprah or something, then more people would know about it. I used to doubt the validity of these stories, but I know 2 women who were abused by elders when they were young...and I don't know that many people! This is so wrong.
Wobble - excellent questions. Surely one wouldn't have to wait on Jehovah for 40 YEARS to get justice?!?
i've had so much anger and depression over the last 6 years.
when i left the b0rg i replaced people i hardly knew with my family... i had so many psychological problems then and when those relationships failed i turned to drugs, self harm through burning and cutting and even was hospitalized a few times because i tried to kill myself.
i was in and out of toxic relationships with people who i thought i needed to complete me as a person.. about two years ago i hit another 'rock bottom' in my life and was drinking and using cocaine and was completly cycling in another jw's guilt pity party.
Thank you for sharing your inspirational story. I'm so happy for you, and I wish you all the best in your future. Creating an identity can be difficult, but it sounds like you're already making yourself a great one.
My favorite quote:
that's what i've been feeling lately!.
i've seen the light that the "truth" isn't the truth, but my husband is an avid believer.
unfortunately i realized this after we had a baby.
I appreciate everyone's great advice.
OTWO - I really appreciated your point about how you can't abandon your wife because you no longer believe. And I agree that I need to be respectful in how I approach things, and lay off when needed. My mind is very black and white, so I need to control my emotions better! I will check those books out too. It sounds like there is no easy solution, but you need to keep trying and eventually they might come around.
undercover - Excellent points! Being respectful but not an enabler, exposing things when an opportunity arrises. I was able to do this when my husband was stating how the end is so close because of all the earthquakes. I calmly told him I looked up the data and was surprised that the statistics really aren't that bad. He didn't believe me, but looked it up himself and saw that they weren't! Hope that little seed will grow.
Desi - I struggled with service for years, and eventually we stopped going. Maybe you could plan a fun outing for your family on Saturday and see what happens? We haven't prepared for meetings or read the Daily Text for over a year! To me, my husband doesn't seem too "spiritual," but he doesn't question anything. Take it slow! I made the mistake of coming on too strong, and now I have to patch things up and lay low for awhile.
And that's great your husband tells you he doesn't agree with things. I hope my husband will someday too. And I would have never guess that English wasn't your mother language.
that's what i've been feeling lately!.
i've seen the light that the "truth" isn't the truth, but my husband is an avid believer.
unfortunately i realized this after we had a baby.
"You need to do whatever it takes to get your family to leave while still believing that you are a believing, but intelligent and questioning, JW in good standing. Ideally, you should be the last to leave."
This sounds like the path I need to take. I got my husband to read part of "Gentile Times Reconsidered," but he ignored all the evidence to favor what the society says (how the 70 years applies only to Jerusalem to fulfill their sabbath years). Unfortunately I'm not as indoctrinated as he is, so I have trouble debating with him.
I don't think I could force myself back out in the ministry though!
has anyone seen this, or plan to?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vupepnjcuy.
Can't wait to see this! Seeing how different cultures raise their children will be amazing. And the US couple looks like attachment parents which is awesome. If I wasn't a JW I would totally be a hippie type.
that's what i've been feeling lately!.
i've seen the light that the "truth" isn't the truth, but my husband is an avid believer.
unfortunately i realized this after we had a baby.
That's what I've been feeling lately!
I've seen the light that the "truth" isn't the truth, but my husband is an avid believer. Unfortunately I realized this after we had a baby. I guess being a stay at home Mom gave me waaaaaaaaaaaay too much time to think and research things on the Internet.
So, that's me in a nutshell. This site has helped me so much. There are so many thought provoking questions on here that have helped me realize this isn't "the truth."
Is anyone else married to a believer? Is it possible to fade and still have a spouse in the org?
i have attended district conventions since i was a little kid every year.
now that i have woken up from the wt nightmare, this will be my first year to miss a district convention!
and it feels so liberating!
I wish I didn't have to go, but my family would freak out. Maybe next year I'll skip it? I did get to miss the Circuit Assembly though!
I'll probably be wandering around for most of the day, not furiously taking notes like I used to.
i just wanted to introduce myself.
my name is chris and i'm on my way out of the only "society" i've known.. i was raised a witness and have been a ministerial servant for a while now.
i recently notified the elder body that i will be stepping down and it will soon be official.
Welcome!
I'm your age and am on my way out too. That's awesome your wife feels the same way you do. Together you can create a new life for you and your own family.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ghnjmmoymjw/dctalk48.pdf.
just uploaded page 2...not 1 or 3 as they are of no interest.. this talk is only given by gb members or branch committee members.
enjoy.
Hahaha, I asked my husband if he believed in 2 groups of anointed, and he was all confused and said no. I'll have to ask him again in a few months I guess.
Thank you for posting this! EVIDENTLY their new explanation is really not making any sense...maybe they should try The Who:
"Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)"
