Welcome JustKeepLiving! Good for you for using your thinking abilities. You discovered things while you are young that is great! Live your life and enjoy your freedom. I do hope your family comes around.
I wish you all the very best.
Hadit
hey folks.
this is my first post, and i figured i might as well tell my story and state why i'm here.. i'm the offspring of a elder and ex-pioneer.
being so raised, i was very serious about the truth as a youngster.
Welcome JustKeepLiving! Good for you for using your thinking abilities. You discovered things while you are young that is great! Live your life and enjoy your freedom. I do hope your family comes around.
I wish you all the very best.
Hadit
hello wonderful people,.
i am a long time lurker and still two footed.
i stay in for family reasons, i really do make a terrible witness only going to 50% of the meetings in a good month.
Welcome Quando! Good post. I loved the fact that you answered NO to your baptism questions - you already knew at 13 that it was a bunch of crap. It's a great thing that kids get forced to get baptized, yet they criticize the Catholic church for infant baptism. Hypocrites.
It's great to have support in the healing process from people who are going through similar circumstances. Take care!
many people that post or lurk here at jwn are too young to remember some of the huge international conventions jws held many years ago, but probably have seen impressive photos such as of the 1958 eight-day convention held simultaneously at new yorks yankee stadium and polo grounds.
especially remarkable was the tremendous newspaper coverage of that assembly and other special conventions held in the 1940s and 50s in the united states.
yesterday, when i downloaded somebodys old scrapbook full of long-ago newspaper articles, http://www.archive.org/details/watchtowernewsscrapbook,reporting on jehovahs witnesses so-called international conventions, i couldnt help but remember what i wrote regarding extraordinary newspaper convention coverage in my www.freeminds.org article, how jehovahs witnesses watchtower religion impacted my family history, part 3 and thought id share the information here on jwn for those who are not familiar with how such wonderful coverage came about.
Thanks Barbara. I had never heard of this. Yet another deception to add to their very long list. First thing I thought of when I read that it was being sold near the conventions is that they are making money on it. So much for Jesus' words of "receive free give free."
the greatest lesson that the watchtower has taught me is to give the love that has been taken from me.
our mother shuns my brother and me to the extreme.
just this morning she told me on the phone from her hospital bed that we will have to learn her diagnosis through the grapevine.. she wasn't always like this.
Thank you for sharing that. It is a painful thing no one should ever go through. I'm glad you have your brother to confide in. The WT is evil in being a catalyst to take what should be an everlasting unconditional love of mother to child and ripping it to pieces in the name of God and love.
It takes strength, courage and a lot of love to rise above that. It's not an easy thing to do. It gives me lots to think about as to how I deal with my anger and hurt. Sharing love with others is a much better path than wallowing in hate. You've shown it can be done. I hope your mother gets better soon.
I wish you and your brother all the best. Thank you for your inspiring words.
some of you may remember the drama we have had first trying to buy land, then an old community hall.
both didn't work out.... well to day we signed our mortgage papers at the bank!
it has been 4 weeks since we signed a contract and it took till today to finalize it...banks sure do drag the chain!.
Congratulations! Sounds like a great place. Enjoy your new home.
its been a long time coming but i kinda think im finally at the point of no return....... right or wrong, i have spoken to my 'friends' about my new feelings and the fact i no longer believe that this is gods chosen people etc etc... and have already been told that if i was to now celebrate my childs birthdays , her 'truth' friends would not be able to come to sleep again and associate with her... (she is 7).
this is despite the fact they are allowed to play with there non witness friends who live down the road....why??
the explanation is that their daughter would perhaps feel it is ok to do this when it is not... i ask why could they not just simply explain it is not our family's belief anymore (as my husband is with me on my decision), and my response is that it would be difficult to do that as we once were witnesses and now are not so it would confuse her daughter and make her think its ok to do these things now... .
Welcome Bez! I'm very happy that you and your husband and children are out together. That is great. You've come to the right place for understanding and support. Everything you are feeling and wondering is completely normal. You are coming out of an organization that uses heavy mind control which wreaks havoc on your thoughts and also your relationship with those who are still completely under its control.
Enjoy your new found freedom. Read, think, look and listen. Thoughts and feelings evolve. Nobody has all the answers but we sure can use our brain to find the ones that work for own situations.
Enjoy life! I wish you and your family all the best.
Hadit
hello everyone, my name is bob and i am a recovering jehovah's witness.
i have a beautiful wife and four equally beautiful children.
my major malfunction is that i am very much a believer and as most here would agree, some major teachings do not line up in harmony with scripture.. god used the help of a pastor friend of mine and together we were able to show my wife from the bible certain biblical truths do not line up with "the truth".
Welcome bobfleur! I'm so glad your wife came out with you and that you have your family together.
The association part can be a bit challenging. Perhaps you can try to get involved in some of your local community groups. You could have your children's friends over to your home and you can invite the parents over for a coffee or a BBQ. It will take some time to build up a new set of friends but it can be done! There are many nice people out there and I'm sure you will have some new friends soon. One day at a time.
I wish you and your family all the best!
Hadit
i am a former ms and have been active and inactive since i stepped down about 20 years ago.
i am currently inactive.
i may attend a meeting or two a month, sometimes none.. i have no feelings of animosity towards the organization, or anyone in it.
Welcome Night Owl! I appreciate your positive attitude. You are right - resentment kills. Unfortunately, it's very hard not to be resentful when you cannot leave it behind due to family still being in. The resentment is in your face every day as you watch your own family treat you like Satan himself is in the house and that you are diseased. If it was cut and dry and my family woke up to the mind control then it would be much easier to leave the resentment where it belongs - in the past. For many on this board it's very much a part of their present. How we deal with that resentment is important and talking to others is a very healing and helpful way to combat it.
As well, due to the psychological nature of the mind control involved - once you leave it can be like detoxing from an addiction. Your emotions go into a great upheaval and make you feel like you are going crazy. Resentment, anger, guilt, fear, a sense of abandonment all grip with great intensity and that is hard to deal with. Many feel the effects years later and it is not because they are weak or not positive - it is because the circuits from the programming still fire once in a while. Just hearing a certain phrase can bring on Pavlovian style reactions which are not under our conscious control. Theraphy can help as well as other known methods for getting around these things.
I'm happy you are doing well! I wish you all the best.
Hadit
i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.
(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).
so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .
Hey V665 to freedom it is ! Thanks! Everyone else join in for a toast too . . . CHEERS!
I did an intro post already when I joined. I got a very nice warm welcome - thanks guys. Of course my life since has been a tremendous rollercoaster. My emotions are all over the map from happy and feeling free to raging anger to scared to depression back to happy - sometimes in one day! This board has been a tremendous help to me. There are many kind and caring people here and I truly appreciate you all - thank you. Knowing that others understand and have gone through many of the things I'm experiencing is helpful. There is a great knowledge base on this forum and many diverse views. It's refreshing to challenge one's beliefs and see that there is so much out there.
My priority right now is helping my son get out. I'm also trying to figure out what I would like to do with my life - a career path. I'm searching for my talents but they seem to elude me! School is an option but I'm not sure what I would like to do. I have many diverse interests and it's hard to hone in on something specific. I love anything to do with fitness, natural healing and neuroscience. I LOVE books and reading.
Well, enough about me! I'm so excited to see the influx of all the new ones these past few weeks. Welcome to all! I hope to see many more joining and finding support and freedom.
Hadit
people like to stop and appreciate a sunset.... but what is it they enjoy?
what do you enjoy?
who say its beautiful?.
I love sunsets. I don't love them because others love them. To me they are beautiful. They bring me peace. They give me hope. The colors are spectacular - sometimes they are dreamy, sometimes they are fiery, sometimes they are passionate. They stir my emotions and imagination. I never bore of them which I can't say for much else.