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  WT advice about unbelieving mates or DF'ed family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  this is a revival of an old thread: http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php?topic=8144.0;topicseen.

  i revived it as i was looking for it to show to someone else.. it seems they wish they could legally kill people's own family members.

  since they cannot, they encourage believing mates to prostitute themselves with the unbeliever- trade sex (marital due) for financial support.. here's the older wt article that reveals "their" attitude toward unbelieving or df'ed family members:.

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  ambersun

  They cry apostasy yet they don't care if they leave God - just don't leave the organization. The article highlights that they wish they had the ability to tell family members to kill their own apostate members. They want to silence opposition forever so they don't lose $. SICK.

  They are the ones who are Satanic, hateful and evil.

  I couldn't agree more. The whole thing fills me with horror. Even if armageddon was coming next week and I knew JWs were to be the only survivors I would rather die than survive to live in a world where the Watchtower Society were free to do as they please to anybody with no laws preventing them. I don't think the rank and file realise what their lives could be like under the rule of their precious GB without the protection of the laws of the land that exist in this 'wicked' system.
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  Look what mommy brought home :)

  by troubled mind in

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  ambersun

  Absolutely adorable!!! I do hope your husband will be OK so you can keep him!
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  Watchtower says GENERATION is NOT the Anointed!

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  2. bible

  compare these two "generation" quotes from the watchtower -- which one is correct?

  how did god's "channel of communication" make an error this big?.

  the watchtower, november 1st, 1995, pages 30-31:.

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  ambersun

  WTBTS = Watchtower Bible and Tacking Society
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  dissonance alive and well

  by booby in

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  2. bible

  yesterday i was in tim hortons with grandson.

  a witness that i know quite well comes in, sees me and comes over and sits down.

  after sundry greetings talk goes to how dire things are in the "world" etc.

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  ambersun

  Jehovah's Witnesses = Chicken Little "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!"

  I think every JW shrieking warnings at us to hurry back into the safety of the Borg because the end is sooooooo close should be given a copy of Chicken Little and asked if the story reminds them of anything
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  Weird Prayer at Last Year's DC - GB Worship

  by LostGeneration in

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  at the last dc i will ever attend in 09' some elder was called up to do the morning prayer.

  i dont recall him being introduced as a co or anything thats why i say elder.. he starts off slowly and 20 seconds in i realize this is his moment of glory, giving a prayer at the dc and he is going to take his sweet time.

  i know the closing prayers are like at least 5 or 10 minutes, but this guy is going to kick off the morning with a long rambling diatribe..... so part way in he gets to the "slave" and he starts naming them off one by one.....ya know thanks for splane, pierce, barr, loesch....so on and so on....til he gets through them all.

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  ambersun

  "Dear Jehovah, thanks for all the good stuff you do for us. I'm not going to list it because you're omniscient, so you know it all anyways. We appreciate the good stuff. Please keep it up. If for some reason bad stuff happens, don't worry, we know it's Satan's fault and not yours. So long, and thanks for all the fish. In Jesus' name. Amen."

  That's brilliant brizzzy! For some reason I've got this hilarious image in my mind of the brother in question saying that prayer at break-neck speed, the last bit being yelled a fair distance away from the microphone as he begins his mad dash to the carpark in an attempt to be first out.
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  Bitterness

  by LostGeneration in

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  how do you overcome this?

  i just got done reading isocf and toward the end ray warns against bitterness.

  i guess i just can't agree with that.

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  ambersun

  That's really good advice cult classic, and I am also trying to move past the bitterness which is very hard at times.
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  disfellowshipping

  by ex-chum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  typically is there a limit to the number of disfellowships a person can receive before they're "out"?

  i'm specifically referring to my ex, who has a marriage/relationship that results in a babyx2.

  she just mentioned that it was harder to get back into good graces this last time.

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  ambersun

  She just mentioned that it was harder to get back into good graces this last time.

  She is a lifetime witness but gets outted to have a life.

  I am puzzled to know why anyone would want to keep going back into prison once they had successfully escaped!!!
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  Are you still programmed by the borg?

  by asilentone in

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  2. experiences

  unfortunately, my answer is yes, it takes time to deprogram everything, probably never to the fullest.

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  ambersun

  Me and Hubby faded about 20 years ago so we are a lot better now, but as man in black said it can rise up unexpectedly from time to time so I don't know if we will ever be truly free from it.
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  What is the point of praying?

  by hoggieman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, i dont post here too often, but i was reading the other post about why bad things happen, and i am curious for everyones thoughts on this: i have recently left about 9 months ago.

  at first i thought i was closer to god and was reading the bible more than ever.... praying asking for help, clarity, etc.....but after a while i started to ask myself why would god answer my messily little prayers when hundreds of thousands were dieing in haiti?

  the witness mindset that i remember was not to pray for things to happen, but for strength for yourself to do something.

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  ambersun

  I'm afraid prayer to me is the same as wishful thinking. The power of the mind can be so strong that if you wish for something to happen intensely enough, with a deep conviction that it will happen, it very often does.

  We hear of people in recent years who have practiced the art of Cosmic Ordering with positive results, who refuse to believe it was just a lucky coincidence and firmly believe in some kind of supernatural force in the universe that brought about the fortunate turn of events, in the same way God fearing people firmly believe that God has answered their prayers for them.

  Personally, I gave up praying a long time before I faded as I failed to see the point in it.

  At the end of the day, if you believe in prayer it will probably work for you, and if you don't have the conviction (like me) it is probably a waste of time.
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  Studies in the Scriptures

  by brotherdan in

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  2. friends

  so for s&gs i started reading russells early works beginning today.

  i started with the 1886 "plan of the ages" book.

  already going through paragraph 1 i am seeing some huge signposts for what would happen later in the religion.. in his explanation of a beginning of an examination into the scriptures he says that there are only 2 ways open to us.

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  ambersun

  I'm not sure if anyone else will think this is interesting or not. But I just thought it was profound that even in 1886, at the very start of the organization, they made their stance as false prophets before God.

  It was a direct result of finding and reading Russell's books that caused me to start thinking for myself and seeing through the web of deceipt that was the WTBTS.

  I would recommend everyone who is interested in trying to get to the bottom of what makes the WTBTS 'tick' needs to go back to the beginning and read all Russell's books and also about the people/societies he was involved with.

  Thanks for the links yknot.