it occured to me that when the new, young elders, ministerial servants and so on take over, they are further and further away from the origin of the witnesses.
when the lies were fresh in the minds of all, when people saw first hand what was done wrong, giving them the reasons to jump ship and enjoy life, without fear of making a mistake, because they had a good idea of the facts.
these things have since been brushed under the carpet and the circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants and so on are more naive and clueless (in my opinion) than ever.. the same applies to the rank and file witnesses.
I have just read those comments on the News Article and I am frankly appalled. I seriously hope the comments of one person in particular are a wind-up
I totally agree with your comments KW13 and I wonder what CTR would think about it all if he came back tomorrow. He is probably spinning in his pyramid as we speak
http://blog.al.com/living-times/2010/07/young_jehovahs_witness_commits.html.
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ugh.
Yes!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sorry - just had to do that.
I feel better now
http://blog.al.com/living-times/2010/07/young_jehovahs_witness_commits.html.
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ugh.
You're right wasblind, I left the borg many years ago but I need a good kick up the backside sometimes to remind me of that fact!
I get exasperated with myself sometimes, I think it's because of all those years of being a puppet to the TWB&TS when I had to suppress all my normal desires for a career etc. Now I am free to follow my heart, I keep coming across that darned invisible 'STOP' sign in my head all the time
http://blog.al.com/living-times/2010/07/young_jehovahs_witness_commits.html.
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ugh.
Yes, that was me 40 years ago and as Gayle said it was 100 hours back then not 70.
If only I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have wasted the best years of my life
...right now to lay down for a nice nap and never wake up.
pretty weary of the whole thing....
Please have a beer on me too
Oh, and you might as well have my last slice of pizza to go with it, here you go
I hate to think of people being sad and I really hope you feel a bit better tomorrow Gregor
i used to call them "cult like" but i do believe they are a "cult".. what's your opinion?.
If it walks like a duck... you get the picture
Sure do, changeling
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I may be wrong but could it have something to do with control? I say this because you often hear of people living in highly controlled environments developing eating disorders of one form or another. The GB control practically every aspect of a Dub's life so food is about the only thing they have relative freedom over.
Most of the congregations I have been associated with over the years have had several members trying out various diets and swearing by certain foods while they shun others. I can remember the Atkins diet being popular and I think I've still got the diet sheets somewhere that a sister gave me.
again, sorry for getting a song stuck in your head.. .
2. though thousands will be falling,.
yes, at your very side,.
They changed Keep Your Eyes on the Prize. They changed the musical arrangement as well. I first sang it about a month ago at my last meeting and thought, ohhh they didn't change this one! Cool! Not a split second later, changed musical arrangment and words. I stopped singing, I was pissed.
Oh no! Keep your eyes on the Prize was my favourite song. It brings back so many memories for me from an era long gone.
I'm feeling all nostalgic and sad now
the watchtower september 1, 2010 11. .
the dangers of being deceived (page 10/11).
to deceive, says one dictionary, means to cause to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid.
Regardless of whether the article is meant for the rank and file JWs to read or just to hand out to the general public it points to the fact that whoever is responsible for the article knows exactly what mind control is all about. It would be good to think it is an insider trying to send some sort of message, you never know
Two sentences stand out to me:
Perhaps he gets so emotionally attached to his belief that he simply shuts his eyes and closes his ears to any evidence that might challenge it.
This statement blaming emotional attachment is true of many JWs, but not the primary reason. And shutting of eyes and closing of ears is compulsory for JWs whether they like it or not.
Surely, a person who is not aware that he or she is being kept in a state of “ignorance, bewilderment, or helplessness” by deliberate misinformation is in serious danger.
And there we have it, direct from the pages of the Watchtower for all to see. KEPT IN A STATE OF IGNORANCE - BY DELIBERATE MISINFORMATION.
The rank and file are told to encourage non JWs to see that examining their beliefs is a good, healthy thing to do, yet they themselves are not allowed to examine any teachings other than that which comes directly from the Governing Body. What is the difference? If JWs have the truth then it should stand up to any scrutiny surely! Telling them that the Devil will use such means to lure them away from 'The Truth' is pathetic, surely the average JW's faith is strong enough to withstand a bit of cross examination and questioning by other faiths? If not, then there is something seriously wrong.
Let's hope some astute householder (possibly an ex JW) reads this article and brings it to the Publisher's attention on the following visit.
Very interesting!!!
Back in the 1960s I spent a week staying with a sister who's congregation was over 90% female and only had two brothers capable to taking meetings. One of them had to preside over every meeting so goodness knows what happened if he was ever ill! The other brother, I don't know if he was an elder or a MS but he could only attend the KH every other Sunday because of his job, running the ferry crossing. There was a group of sisters who took on all the duties of Elders and Ministerial Servants such as running the book room and attending to congregation needs but without the titles bestowed on brothers who normally do these tasks. One sister who was clearly in charge but very humble and sweet told me her husband used to be the Presiding Overseer but ran off with one of the only other brothers (I kid you not) in the congo a year or so previously.
That sister's congregation was one of the happiest, united and well organised group of people I have ever known! If anyone ever deserved the title of Elder she did!!!!
