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  Shunning - do JW's simply turn a blind eye to the consequences of it?

  by jambon1 in

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  ambersun

  Thanks for that nugget, that is excellently put and explains why JWs who are otherwise kind, compassionate individuals can behave in such a cold and heartless way towards former friends or even family members, with no apparent concern for the effects all this is having on the poor unfortunate soul who is being ostracised.

  To me, this is evidence in itself of the clever mind control techniques used by the organisation to keep its members in line, even succeeding in persuading members to willingly act against their natural instincts of love and protection towards family members in order to obey the leaders, which in their eyes is more important.

  The very thought of upsetting the WTS by failing to obey its commands causes more distress to many JWs than losing a close friend or family member. Quite frightening really! Fortunately, it appears that since the introduction of online sites like this there are increasingly more JWs who are starting to think for themselves and refusing to go along with all this shunning nonesense, thank goodness!!
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  Do you have a Facebook Page? and if so

  by DeeDubs in

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  what do you have on the info page for religion?.

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  ambersun

  Mine's blank too. I was going to put a flippant comment but didn't want to risk upsetting my JW relatives who are fb friends.
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  Is there a "dominent family" in your hall?

  by pontoon in

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  back years ago when we were getting ready to split, i suggested that two or three bros and their families went to the other hall, otherwise 75% of our new body would be belong to the same family.

  my idea was shot down.

  so, any time we needed a show of hands, all six of those men (father, two sons, two son in laws, a brother to one son in law) always voted the same way.

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  ambersun

  Yes, I think it is quite common for the offspring of several families within the same congregation to grow up and marry each other, making one huge family. It is inevitable really as they are not allowed to mix with people who are not JWs, so unless they meet someone at an assembly what else can they do? I know of one congregation where intermarrying was practically encouraged, and the relationships became really complicated, like having an aunt who was also your sister in law just as an example.
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  Having the Circuit Oversear over for dinner...was it like a royal visit for you??

  by Witness 007 in

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  i rang a sister who i haven't spoken to for years who said "she couldn't talk since she was cooking for the c.o and his wife who have special dietary needs......was this like a royal visits at your cong and whats with the "we can't eat flour, or yeast" or blah blah blah!

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  ambersun

  I have lost count of the number of COs my mother has cooked for over the years, often having them to stay for the week of their visit.

  They were all pleasant enough in their own ways, but a nightmare to feed! I used to think it was a coincidence that so many COs wives seemed to have very complicated and strange dietary needs. They all seemed to have an accute intolerance to either dairy/wheat/salt/sugar etc... etc..., in fact most food that the majority of the population managed to eat without any problems.

  They often drank strange concoctions instead of tea of coffee, which had to be provided at set times, and I can remember one CO's wife insisting that she could not have anything to drink at all for two hours before or after her meals.

  I can remember discussing it with my Mom and we wondered if all the travelling about caused digestive problems for them, as they all seemed to be so difficult to feed.
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  What were you doing 25 years ago today....

  by Magwitch in

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  when the challenger exploded?.

  i was dutifully going door to door to door, when a lady came to the door crying about the cahllenger.

  she invited me in and i placed a set of magazines.

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  ambersun

  I remember staring at the TV screen in stunned disbelief. It was so awful you felt it just couldn't be real. The face of that poor mother watching as the shuttle exploded with her daughter on board will haunt me forever. I really felt her pain, as I am sure many people did.

  I was also going through my own private hell having lost my lovely Dad after a long battle with cancer. I was also trapped in a religion I no longer believed in, and terrified of being DFd and losing my family if my true feelings became known, so I just couldn't see a way out . There was no JWN support in those days, and it was a very dark period in my life.
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  The Truth Will Set You Free ? NOT !

  by Hairyhegoat in

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  i have to post this but remember the book study went a long time ago.

  it's still good comments though.. .

  after all, they are free from the false religions of christendom they are told, free from holidays of all types, free from their non-jw relatives, free from anything and everything that does not involve working for the watchtower society!

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  ambersun

  The truth sets you free from the obligation to think for yourself. It sets you free from your obligation to be a force for good in humanity, it frees you from making the most of your talents. Worst of all it frees you from compassion.

  Nugget is spot on! Couldn't have put it better myself!!
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  Awake! July 2009 No one should be made to choose between their beliefs and family

  by Awen in

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  just as the title says.. .

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw1dfohdkao&feature=related.

  peace,.

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  ambersun

  I agree, what a cutie!!

  I think I've got that magazine in a box somewhere, I must dig it out. Mom always leaves the latest mags behind when she comes to visit and I keep them for research .

  The blatant double standards regarding rules that apply to JWs as apposed to other religions is breathtaking!!

  I can remember laughing to myself when I first that picture of a poor JW sister looking so down and unhappy and thinking exactly the same things Heaven said! The weight lifted off my shoulders the day I walked out of the KH for the last time and started to actually enjoy life!
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  April WT is out. Blood, FDS, moses & crazy stuff...

  by bohm in

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  the april wt is out, get it while you can.

  what caught my attention was the first article.

  some quotes:.

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  ambersun

  The craziest thing is that if any JW was told about a religion with a leader who wrote to his congregations regularly from his ivory tower with instructions to obey his interpretation of the bible without question, never to question his decisions, never to do personal research, think or reason things out for themselves or use their own judgment but to be totally subservient to him at all times, there would be no doubt in the average JW's mind that this was a cult and its leader was a dangerous control freak.

  Yet these are the people who hang on every word uttered by the 'faithful and discreet slave' to be obeyed at all times on fear of death, even if their interpretation of some of the bible scriptures seems a bit dodgy at the very least.

  Who do they think the faithful and discreet slave is? How do they receive this divine spiritual guidance directly from Jehovah himself? Does the 'faithful and discreet slave / GB' receive God's instructions whilst in a trance sitting round the board table at HQ on a Tuesday afternoon (or whenever it is they meet)? Does it come to them individually in dreams during the night which they then discuss round the board table? I am intrigued to know how JWs think it happens, if they can allow themselves to think that deeply about it of course! It was questions like these that caused me to start fading many many years ago.
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  The name of this forum

  by Georgiegirl in

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  we've all seen jw apologists come on here (or very confused jws'/jw wannabes) bellyaching about how misleading the name of this forum is.

  it suddenly occurred to me - shouldn't that actually be a red flag for them?

  the very organization that claims to be "his witnesses" and that it is the only religion out there sanctifying the name of jehovah (ergo, they are the "truth") - uses the watchtower as their homepage name.

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  ambersun

  You would think that a "spirit-directed" organization would have had the foresight to name itself after exactly who they claim to be

  My thoughts exactly.

  Simon used the .com since he started the website in 2000 and I could be wrong but that might pre-date the WTS' entry to the internet.

  He got em first. He gets to keep them

  Yes, and as MidwichCuckoo said, you wonder why God would allow his "spirit directed" organisation to be beaten to the post by an "apostate" website where his name was concerned.

  Speaks volumes don't it!!
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  little cantleave wants to say hi

  by nugget in

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  my son wants to say hi to everyone on the forum.

  as one of the main drivers to us exiting the cult he is very excited about never going to a meeting again.. if i knew how to load pictures i would let you see his plan for christmas lights next year.

  apparently we are having a sleigh with reigndeers.

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  ambersun

  Hi little cantleave

  Isn't it great to know you can now look forward to Christmas and Birthdays and go to ALL the parties that you want to!!!!!

  Whoopeeee!!!!!

  My own son was 7 when he had his first Christmas. He was so excited! I have still got the decorations he made for the tree and also a chain of bells he bought with his own pocket money. They have pride of place on the Christmas tree every year, even though he is in his 20s now!

  You will have so many wonderful memories to look back on when you are older.

  With happy thoughts,

  Ambersun xxx