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  Going Door to Door with Scrolls

  by VM44 in

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  does anyone know where this anachronistic and propagandistic picture came from?.

  did a watchtower artist draw it?.

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  ambersun

  In those days, there were no printing presses. Scriptures were copied by hand, AND were very expensive. Few could afford hand-copied copies!

  Exactly right, PublishingCult.

  Who had the job of copying these scrolls? After all, someone had to do it as they wouldn't write themselves. Are we to believe these men spend their entire nights sitting up at their dining tables by candle light writing out dozens of copies neatly by hand in order to devote the daylight hours to going from door to door giving them out to householders who were most probably illiterate anyway?

  How would these men afford all the papyrus and ink? It is hightly unlikely they would be able to charge enough money to cover these costs. Also, the writers' cramp they would experience would be excruciating to say nothing of sleep depravation in order to get all the scrolls ready for an early start out in field service next morning. Really silly.

  Mind you, even when I was a JW I always tended to be very sceptical about things like this that other JWs just accepted as wonderful upbuilding 'facts'. Sometimes I felt like pulling my hair out in frustration at some of the highly improbable examples they gave us in the WT, but thanks to JWN I realise I was not on my own
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  Stupid not just once but twice, and it is praised

  by therevealer in

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  12 the watchtower ?

  5 what good results there can be when.

  children are trained to keep a simple eye!.

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  ambersun

  lol at pontoon
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  Stupid not just once but twice, and it is praised

  by therevealer in

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  12 the watchtower ?

  5 what good results there can be when.

  children are trained to keep a simple eye!.

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  ambersun

  I especially hated the stories about people who supposedly swam across crocodile infested rivers, hacked their way through a jungle or climbed over a mountain to attend their meetings.

  That brings back some memories lol. Don't forget the one about the man braving bandits to get to the meetings knowing he would be murdered if caught. They did catch him in fact, but the bandits were so impressed with his faith that they let him go. Yeah, right . Then there was the crippled elderly sister who crawled for miles to the meeting on her hands and knees rather than miss it when there was nobody available to take her. Who on earth was this martyr to the faith? Possibly this Ethiopian girl's grandmother?
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  My Labrador died can anyone please help me. I can't stand the pain.

  by Witness 007 in

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  my wife recovered from depression just 14 months ago and things have been going well.....so much so that i started a buisness for her and we are two weeks into it.

  my labby was ill vomiting abit of discomfort, i thought great, you ate something bad again!

  the vet gave him a shot and sent us home.

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  ambersun

  My heart goes out to you Witness 007. I know only too well what that pain is like. When our dog died we were all overwhelmed with grief and still miss him terribly, but thank goodness the heart wrenching pain has now eased off.

  Also, please rest assured that you are quite normal in your feelings of guilt, wondering if you could have done more at the time. I was exactly the same and tortured myself for ages as I went over and over his last days in my head thinking of ways I could have made things better. This is all part of the normal grieving process and WILL pass in time even though you may not believe it right now.

  Hopefully by reading these posts it will help knowing you are not on your own with your unbearable pain and anyone who has lost a beloved pet will know the pain and the emotions you are feeling right now. Try not to beat yourself up over it. Your lab was really lucky to have had such a happy life with owners who adored him.

  Take care Witness 007. Please be assured time is a great healer
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  May 15 2011 WT - study edition out

  by just n from bethel in

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  2. beliefs

  i don't really care to download it and review it and see how it's the same old same old - but i do like to read up on others doing it here.

  :) i'm a lazy leach like that.. so - get to it guys.. www.jw.org.

  edit: haha- i said 2001 in the title - meant 2011.

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  ambersun

  Sorry
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  Stupid not just once but twice, and it is praised

  by therevealer in

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  12 the watchtower ?

  5 what good results there can be when.

  children are trained to keep a simple eye!.

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  I whole heartedly agree dgp. If by some miracle this story was true, just think of the wonderful things this girl could achieve for herself, her family and her community with the money she earned, which would be on a parr with winning the lottery for most of us.

  My friend's daughter who has actually lived among Ethiopians in the course of her charity work, told us some heart rending tales of poverty, the lack of food and medicines or clean water, and how she and her colleagues literally picked up a dying child and drove for miles to a hospital to get vital treatment for her which her family could not afford. Most children she came across were lucky to get any form of education at all. Of course, it is likely that there are poor areas and more affluent areas like any other country in the world but it still seems a bit hard to believe that a girl should not only be in a position to turn down higher education, but then on leaving school with no qualifications be offered an incredibly high paid job.

  If I get a chance, I will ask my friend's daughter what she thinks about this story.
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  You Can Overcome WT Phobias!

  by leavingwt in

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  early in the exit process, it's very important to begin overcoming irrational fears.

  fear of the devil.

  fear of god.

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  ambersun

  Excellent topic. Even after 20 years I still have occasions when I find myself faced with irrational fears caused by all the mind control sessions I used to attend. This site has helped a lot!!
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  Stupid not just once but twice, and it is praised

  by therevealer in

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  12 the watchtower ?

  5 what good results there can be when.

  children are trained to keep a simple eye!.

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  ambersun

  A friend's daughter spent a few weeks in Ethiopia a couple of years ago doing charity work. She said the poverty was overwhelming and nobody she met had enough money to even feed themselves properly, let alone get a decent education.

  For an Ethiopian girl to have been given such a brilliant education, then be offered such a well salaried job on leaving school is frankly ludicrous.
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  Increased promotion of 'worship' to the Faithful Slave in the Watchtower

  by callitquits76 in

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  i have heard it said that over the past few months, the magazines have been filled with pro-gb garbage promoting complete obedience to the body.

  can anybody point me to any examples?.

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  ambersun

  In the new song book, the words of many songs have also been changed to promote worship of the organisation. There was a topic on that a few months ago.
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  Getting upset with children who cannot sit through the meetings.

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok this thought came to me the other day.

  i was thinking of the co who told me that he liked to see parents spank their children for not sitting still during the meetings.. i remember how hard it was to sit through two hours when i was four or five years old.

  it was like forever.. i was thinking of comparing the hours that we have been alive to how long two hours is for a child.

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  ambersun

  I never got upset with my children but I DID get upset with the idiots who tried to order us to make them sit silently through long meetings they were too young to understand. One congregation we attended when our son was tiny wouldn't even tolerate the sound of a gurgling baby and insisted I stayed in the cold bookroom with no sound through out the meetings!

  Just before our fade I can remember being at Dudley assembly hall and towards the end of a very long day our four year old son was sitting on the floor between us playing quietly with a toy, not disturbing anyone. A very pompous elder was sitting the other side of Hubby and was clearly very annoyed. He complained that our son was a distraction and practically ordered Hubby to put him back on the seat and take away his toy. Hubby just turned to the pompous elder and asked him if he had ANY idea how difficult it was to keep an active four year old boy quiet for an entire day? We are not talking about a couple of hours here! He added that our son was tired and we had no intention of distressing him by taking away his toy and making him sit on a seat that he had already sat on for far longer than was reasonable for such a small child!! We were both very annoyed and needless to say, we started a gradual fade quite soon after that episode. To cause distress to a tired child is heartless and cruel!!