Posts by ambersun

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Holy spirit handouts, and the magical prayers only the Witnesses get answered.

by msconcerned in

jehovah, please allow our house to sell so we can go preach in another country where the need is great.. jehovah please help me get that job where i dont have to work shiftwork anymore and i can make all the meetings.. jehovah we need $200 so we can go to the convention, please look after us.. ah yes, the prayers of the faithful one.

how we look at these and feel our hearts swell with love for our god.

many of us at one time or another have asked for things such as these.

ambersun

One smart - alec reply to questions about the many unanswered prayers of suffering individuals I heard was: well, if Jehovah answered all these prayers and identified himself as the benefactor, everyone would stream into the TRUTH, and the society could not handle the studies, training, expansion needed that this would impose on us. God wants--- God does not want----.

Ah right, so instead of giving everyone in the world the opportunity of salvation (which is what the world wide preaching work is supposed to be about), Jehovah actually doesn't want to make the preaching work TOO successful by lending a hand and answering a few of the worldly prayers, as he is more concerned about imposing too much work on his chosen few and would rather leave the vast majority of poor unfortunate worldlies to their horrible fate at armageddon instead.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry after reading this. I have heard some jaw droppingly outrageous JW reasoning in my time but I think this gets a gold star for sheer eye rolling stupidity!

Don't these people actually stop and THINK about how ridiculous they must sound, or are they really that brainwashed that they just can't see it?!

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Oops I did it again. Another mistake

by KariOtt in

jw
friends

so it seems i made another mistake.

i expressed negative feelings to my hubby.

i'm not allowed to express anything but positive emotions.

ambersun

Good advice from scully! Above all else it is very important that you don't isolate yourself from your TRUE friends, which will hopefully include members of your church who should be on hand to support you. After reading your last post suggesting it is impossible for you to escape your present situation, I think it is extremely important you do not become isolated!

I would suggest joining facebook again using a name that is not obvious to your JW relatives and make it strictly private, so that only people you trust, that you have personally invited and accepted as friends, can be part of it. That way you can at least let people outside your home know what is going on, and seek advice and help from them when it is needed. Even then, if you need to discuss personal matters it is often best to send private messages to individuals rather than open messages that all your facebook friends can read, just to be on the safe side.

Take care and I wish you well

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Field Service again????

by Gojira_101 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo82hhwms3s.

enjoy.

watch it through to the end.. .

ambersun

Hee hee, I just love the video, and everything you say is SO TRUE!! I used to feel exactly the same as you. Well done

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Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit

by raymond frantz in

never become enraged against jehovah.

(watchtower study 7-13 october).

paragraph 4.

ambersun

Oh very clever! This is a very well timed article considering we are coming up to the 100th anniversary of the 1914 prophecy and the generation that would "by no means pass away"

Paragraph 11 has just about put the kybosh on a carefully thought out discussion I have been planning to have with my JW family and friends about failed prophecies and the false promises made to us through the pages of the WT during the last century. I was planning to ask them to cast their minds back to the 1960s when we were encouraged to leave school and pioneer because studying for a career would be a waste of time as the end was so close due to the 1914 prophecy. I would go on to ask them honesty how we would have felt back then if someone had told us that in the year 1913 we would still be here in this system, many of us at pension age, the 1914 generation having long since passed away. Back in the 1960s, to even think about the system lasting longer than 1975 would demonstrate a complete lack of faith! I was then going to ask them if they can honestly say now, in light of everything that has happened (or failed to happen) they have never had doubts and wondered why they are continuing to chase that carrot on the end of a stick.

Now, thanks to this cunning article, they will already be mentally primed and ready to reject any such discussion from the outset to protect themselves from "becoming enraged against Jehovah".

I don't think it will be worth even attempting such a discussion now.

I am looking forward to reading blondie's comments on this week's WT study.

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JW attitudes to women

by Frazzled UBM in

i would be very interested to hear from you ladies on this one.

i know that the society keeps women in subjugation through the headship cr@p but didn't ahve any sense about hoew prehistoric the attitudes are until the other day when we were driving out of the supermarket car park and my wife spotted a woman dressed in tight shorts (it has been very hot here) and she commented 'they say that women who dress like that dserve to be raped'.

i did a wtf and overreacted 'how can you blame the victim like that - such attitudes give men a lciense to commit rape and make women feel they are to balme if they get raped which in turn means that rape doesn't get reported and it gopes on with impunity.

ambersun

I am laughing so much at Miss Fitt's post as I wonder how that pompous elder would react if he only knew how many wives actually write their husbands' talks for them!

When I was a JW I witnessed this happening, so I am sure it must still go on

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Jehovah's Witness Mother Ends Relationship With Atheist Son

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

jehovah's witness mother ends relationship with atheist son.source http://lefthemispheres.blogspot.ca/2012/06/letter-jehovahs-witness-mother-ends.htmlhttp://davetrash.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/the-letter/.

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bangalore.

ambersun

As a mother myself, I am mystified how a woman who clearly loves her son would want to live forever in a world where he will not exist, especially considering the reason he will not exist is because he will be killed by the same "loving" God that she is devoting her life to serving.

She may have convinced herself that it is entirely her own decision that has not been influenced by anyone, but if the Society changed their policy on shunning and said it was no longer necessary to carry out this barbaric practice, would she still have written that heartbreaking letter to her son? I personally doubt it.

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The day JEHOVAH.....went POP!

by Terry in

think about this.. go way back...far far back in history.. .

go back before the internet.

go back farther.. go back before newspapers, tv and radio.. .

ambersun

Wow!

I just read your opening post twice and if I understand it correctly then I agree with everything you say. It is brilliant!

Trouble is my head hurts now from having to think it all through. I bet you could hear the rusty cogs whirring away inside my head from across the pond lol

Oh, my unicorn has just come in from harrowing the valleys and needs feeding. Must go

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Sad Discussion Regarding Beards

by turtleturtle in

so both my wife and i are awake to ttatt.

we are still active, patiently waiting for the org to implode.

being active, it is evident this is happening as a quickening.. we were having a discussion regarding shaving & beards.

ambersun

I brought out in a group of Dubs today, that Beards were a requirement under the mosaic law and how Dubs in some other lands can have them. Silence. One sister was saying how beards are immodest

Yet we all know that every time the WT flip flops over a doctrine all the dubs change their thinking overnight to fit in with the new rules. If the magazines suddenly start showing brothers with beards and they say that 'New Light' indicates that beards should be worn, that same sister who said beards were immodest would forget she ever thought that and would be praising the brothers in the Cong for their lovely display of facial hair

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Study: Belief in an angry God associated with variety of mental illnesses

by sizemik in

hardly surprising to most ... but it's interesting to have a study confirm it.. people who believe in an angry, punishing god are much more likely to suffer from a variety of mental illnesses, a scientific study published in the april edition of journal of religion & health finds.. the study, conducted by marymount manhattan college assistant psychology professor nava silton, used data from the 2010 baylor religion survey of us adults to examine the links between beliefs and anxiety disorders like social dysfunction, paranoia, obsession and compulsion.. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/17/study-belief-in-an-angry-god-associated-with-variety-of-mental-illnesses/.

ambersun

Hardly surprising to most ... but it's interesting to have a study confirm it.

As you say, hardly surprising to anyone who has experienced it first hand.

It doesn't take a medical genious to work out that a child raised to believe that if they are naughty they will be punished by eternal damnation in either a burning hell or having the ground open up to swallow not only them but also their pet dog or cat at armageddon (which is coming sooooon), is more than likely to suffer some kind of mental anxiety as they grow up .

However, they have probably spent obscene amounts of money researching the subject and at least it confirms what should be glaringly obvious to most people .

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A Plea for Atheists to 'Stop being Jerks' by a Republican political consultant

by Terry in

faith.

dear fellow atheists: stop being jerksapr.

10, 2013 12:00pmdon rasmussendon rasmussen is a texas-based republican political consultant.

ambersun

Keep Santa Claus but dump Jesus... Jesus being the myth between the two?

These folks don't make much sense.

My thoughts exactly. I don't know what they are trying to achieve here, other than offending Christians for whatever reason, but to me it is just childish and silly.

As for the billboard, well, it's kind of pointless. It would be better to have a billboard with some FACT about evolution.

Well said! A few well chosen words to make people stop and think about alternative viewpoints, without being deliberately offensive, would have far more impact.